Thursday, May 16, 2002

Info From Class

RE: [spiers] info from class

Passion for an "item" is great...if you want to own a job. Do you want to
own/control a business you either start or purchase? What is the publics
passion? What does the target market want...what is their passion? Find a
"need" and fill it. My passion is a successful business which fills a need,
has great cashflow, and makes a profit...with or without me being there. As
the "man" says...it all starts with phrases such as, "I wish there was a
____ to do this with" or "I wish someone would make a _______ to ..." Of all
things John has said, this is the beginning for "demand and supply"
marketing. It's not supply and demand, but demand and supply that creates a
business passion within me. What do people want that's not being supplied!
Even if it's a unique market segment that has a need. Fill it and fill it
economically.

-----Original Message-----
From: wileyccc@aol.com [mailto:wileyccc@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:42 PM
To: RARAYNOR@aol.com
Subject: [spiers] info from class



In a message dated 5/14/02 9:58:53 AM, RA RA writes:

<< I am not, I do not think, interested in having to work with "factories"
per se. I was originally thinking more "cottage industry" which may be
factory, I do not know.

My interest lies in importing religious objects, or objects used during
ritual (shamanic, Budddist, Hindu, whatever) as well as the crafts of the
local peoples - fabric, rugs, decorative textiles, sculptures, etc.(
actually
the stuff you come across that is off the beaten path) I know it is a theme
that is probably well worn (though probably no different than precious gems
or footwear), but this is where my passion would lie. Your comments in your
book and in class have not been the most supportive of this approach, which
is fine, however, it may still be the path I choose to follow.

So, my question is, will there be a way to uncover these "not so local"
resources within the countries that I choose to try to import from (mainly
thinking South America at this time). Will the agents we have been speaking
of have good resources, or will it be a matter of spending time in the
countries and locating the resources through the local tour guides or
speaking with people off the beaten path? >>

Aside from it being a theme well worn, are the suppliers willing to sell to
you what you want, or are they keen on selling whatever will help them rise
above their present income level....are they keen on you giving them the
designs that will sell in the United States?

Is there a single religious ritual object that was not redesigned for local
consumption in the history of mankind? That is to say when Chan buddhism
went
to Japan and became Zen buddhism, was is not redesigned for local tastes?
this is just one movement in one religion, something that always has and
always will occur. Why do you want it to be different this time?

My concern is the "not so local" resources within the countries that you
choose to try to import from may not be what your customers want to buy, nor
what the resources want to sell. It would be wonderful if we could buy
things as they are overseas and sell them as they were in USA. I've tried
that it did not work...later importers told me why.

Yes, there are stores that sell native handicrafts that seem to do well, but
too often these are a write-off some doctor maintains to keep the spouse
busy, and out of her hair.

Cedrtainly you can try, and no doubt the very villagers you approach have
been selling a pieces to people like you for 20 years, hoping someday,
someone will bring them steady repeat business.

I guess I am not supportive of this scenario... but don't take my word for
it... do this: get asmples..take it to the stores you think will sell it.
Hear what they have to say. it is very hard to argue with the people who you
believe would be your customers.

Yes, villagers trade, and the closer to the villager the lower the price,
the
closer to the port the higher the price. You will ultimately make contact
with resources. There may be resources that cannot be found with my
approach, because they are not first rate or no one has ever successfully
bought from them, or more than once.

There is something to trade in that is much quicker, more fun, more
important
and yet to be done... something from you... find that!


John


Info From Class

In a message dated 5/14/02 9:58:53 AM, RA RA writes:

<< I am not, I do not think, interested in having to work with "factories"
per se. I was originally thinking more "cottage industry" which may be
factory, I do not know.

My interest lies in importing religious objects, or objects used during
ritual (shamanic, Buddhist, Hindu, whatever) as well as the crafts of the
local peoples - fabric, rugs, decorative textiles, sculptures, etc.( actually
the stuff you come across that is off the beaten path) I know it is a theme
that is probably well worn (though probably no different than precious gems
or footwear), but this is where my passion would lie. Your comments in your
book and in class have not been the most supportive of this approach, which
is fine, however, it may still be the path I choose to follow.

So, my question is, will there be a way to uncover these "not so local"
resources within the countries that I choose to try to import from (mainly
thinking South America at this time). Will the agents we have been speaking
of have good resources, or will it be a matter of spending time in the
countries and locating the resources through the local tour guides or
speaking with people off the beaten path? >>

Aside from it being a theme well worn, are the suppliers willing to sell to
you what you want, or are they keen on selling whatever will help them rise
above their present income level....are they keen on you giving them the
designs that will sell in the United States?

Is there a single religious ritual object that was not redesigned for local
consumption in the history of mankind? That is to say when Chan buddhism went
to Japan and became Zen buddhism, was is not redesigned for local tastes?
this is just one movement in one religion, something that always has and
always will occur. Why do you want it to be different this time?

My concern is the "not so local" resources within the countries that you
choose to try to import from may not be what your customers want to buy, nor
what the resources want to sell. It would be wonderful if we could buy
things as they are overseas and sell them as they were in USA. I've tried
that it did not work...later importers told me why.

Yes, there are stores that sell native handicrafts that seem to do well, but
too often these are a write-off some doctor maintains to keep the spouse
busy, and out of her hair.

Cedrtainly you can try, and no doubt the very villagers you approach have
been selling a pieces to people like you for 20 years, hoping someday,
someone will bring them steady repeat business.

I guess I am not supportive of this scenario... but don't take my word for
it... do this: get samples..take it to the stores you think will sell it.
Hear what they have to say. it is very hard to argue with the people who you
believe would be your customers.

Yes, villagers trade, and the closer to the villager the lower the price, the
closer to the port the higher the price. You will ultimately make contact
with resources. There may be resources that cannot be found with my
approach, because they are not first rate or no one has ever successfully
bought from them, or more than once.

There is something to trade in that is much quicker, more fun, more important
and yet to be done... something from you... find that!


John