Wednesday, September 12, 2001

Forgiveness

Re: [spiers] Forgiveness


Absolutely!

As the Bible says, God will spare the city if
there is at least one righteous man.
Aren't you fanny, John?

If there is 90% of population set up to kill those
infidels, Americans, would you spare the city?
What about 50% of martirs/murderers in-training?
What about 10%?

At what %% would you stop forgiving?
If your child is killed, you will still forgive?
If your own throat is slit, will you keep forgiving?

There is no culture, which preaches mass murder,
except minorities.
Nazis were minority in Germany, until they took the
power, then they educated population into NATION of
murderers, thanks to FORGIVENESS of the "civilized"
democracies.

You remind me the famous Lenin's remarks about
Capitalists who would sell to him a rope on which
proletariat will hang them.
There are other things in life but greenbacks, John.
You are an easy target for foregn agents to manipulate
your ideology to help them in the next act.
Remember "Good Morning, Vietnam" scene in restorant?

Who do you want to forgive?
Those who are in preparing the next blow?
Those who declare Jews and Americans legitimate target
all over the world?
Those who declare their goal the "Final Solution" of
Hitler?

Poor, poor John, you will be their first victim, and
still you savour this sweet dream of universal peace.

Sorry, John, but as the saying goes:
"Those who don't learn from history are dumed to
repeat it."

My heart akes for America, for you and for all of us,
stupid people.

Arkadyl.


--- wileyccc@aol.com wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I had the pleasure of beginning my career just after
the last series of heinous terrorist acts in the early
'70's, and was fortunate to travel widely in
mid-to-late 70's as a buyer. More specifically, I was
able to travel to "Red China" twice a year and
circumstances were such that I was rubbing shoulders
with "enemies of the USA" in the course of my work.
>
> Now there is no doubt some very evil people did this
work today, and equally no doubt that the USA will
respond in a way that certainly settles matters for a
while.

There is much speculation as to who did this (and keep
in mind we had 2 whole days of "arab terrorist" alarms
before Timothy McVeigh was arrested for the OKC
blast), and we'll certainly find out.

Of course no (WHERE DID YOU GET THIS "OF
COURSE"?)government will ever be behind such an
attack, so it is likely a non-governmental group.
Bottom line is we'll find out, and we will retaliate
effectively (AS USUAL, HA-HA).
>
> What no one above grade schoolers seems to be asking
> is "why?" Why would so many people conspire to do
so much damage? It seems a given that this is what
Arab terrorists do... bomb Americans.
>
I got an answer in the late '70's from the kinds of
people you saw dancing in jubilation over our
disaster. Their explanations were rational
(I NEVER MET A PERSON IN MY LIFE WHO"S EXPLANATIONS
WERE NOT "RATIONAL")and understandable, although I
never agreed (THANK YOU).

And fortunately, the vast majority of those Arabs I
met were genuinely distressed at what havoc the
terrorists cause the Arab world as well as our world
(THEY STILL PROTECT "MINORITY" THAT DOES IT).
>
> We are the most powerful country in the world and
will remain so this century no matter how many attacks
we suffer. (WHY DO YOU THINK SO? WISHFUL THINKING?)
But there are many people within our power structures
who are unworthy of our country, just as these
terrorists are unworthy of Arab culture (TOO BROAD
GENERALIZATION).
The worst elements in Araby give power to the worst
voices in our culture, and they feed on each other
(TRUE).
>
We have in our arsenal, within our culture, a weapon
that is irresistible (LIKE CHEMBERLEN IN 1939).
That weapon is forgiveness(MISTAKE). Yes some of
Araby rejoices at our wound, but most of cultured
Araby is disgusted. We are the superior power, and as
such we can forgive, and then listen to the answer to
the question why. There is no shame in that.
>
We voters may not be pleased with what we hear, and we
may have to take care to pick more worthy
representatives (WHERE WILL YOU FIND THEM?).
We are overwhelmingly powerful, (MISTAKE)and it is up
to us what happens next. Inshallah, the violence will
stop(DO'NT HOLD YOUR BREATH).
>
> John Spiers


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