Sunday, February 26, 2006

Chinese Government questions

Re: [spiers] Chinese Government questions

If the numbers can be relied upon, then China is one quarter of the world's
population...
which mean they have got everything going on at once... here strict communists
in control,
there laissez faire free markets, and everything in between. China is too big
to described in
any useful way. I am not so interested in where they are as where they are
going, and it
seems to me they are growing, improving, advancing and fulfilling chairman Mao's
imperative
More Better Cheaper Faster, although through the freedom Mao hated. And as I
said before, I
think China will be defined by the Chinese the next hundred years, as opposed to
the last
100 when China was defined by foreignors.

I advocate free markets, not capitalism, partly because I don't think capitalism
can stand
anywhere, with its inherent insufficiency. (Capitalism is a necessary function
in free markets,
but not sufficient for free markets). Also, in China's history a peasant rising
to the top is not
unheard of, so I cannot see what would prevent that now.

I don't see China trapped by any need to keep the machine churning, since most
workers
head to the city on a mission: make enough money to buy big screen tv, get some
dental
work done, pull together a grubstake to open a juice stand back home. Of
course, millions
who do well stick around and move up. In a recession millions would make a
decision: am I
happier here in the city, or would I be happier back in the village. Most i
think would ride out
the rough times back in the village. I read somewhere that something like 40%
of the Irish
and Italian immigrants who came to USA in the 1800's also returned home to stay.

Competition means to "strive with" and we are in competition with the Chinese
economically
just as our athletes compete with their athletes in the Olympics. Both sides
benefit in
competition. If China has the largest population in the world, shouldn't they
have the largest
economy in the world? They've been the richest country on the planet before,
and i don't
think they presented much of a threat. On the other hand, an impoverished China
was our
enemy. I hope no one thinks that if China gets rich we must get poor.

China has stopped building detention camps and I read in the NY Times this week,
Halliburton received a $350 million dollar contract to start building detention
centers in USA
for the Department of Homeland Security. This is the wrong direction for USA.
Sure, it is
republicans who are leading USA down, but it will be no different under the
democrats. Does
anyone think Hiillary Clinton as president would shut down gitmo or liquidate
the detention
centers? No way, she'd love the power... and inmate #000000001 would be Bill
Clinton when
she is in charge. Payback!

John

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:08:00 -0000, "mgranich" wrote :

> How would you describe Chinese government? I know China is billed
> as a Communist country, but Robert Reich stated that China is as
> Capitalist of a country as you can get.
>
> So, can you describe China as having a Capitalist economy with a
> Totalitarian government? Is there a ruling elite like an Oligarchy
> OR, can a peasant from the country side step up and lead China?
>
> Can Capitalism stand on its own, severed from the political form of
> government?
>
> Anthony
>
> PS, Reich also felt at China's current growth rate, it would be the
> largest economy in ~25 years.
>
> AND,
>
> The biggest social problem in China are people leaving farms heading
> for the city looking for work and China is under pressure to keep
> the factories humming, building our import products.
>


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