Chinese Government questions

Re: [spiers] Chinese Government questions

I agree with John's insightful analysis! Yes, it's better to have more richer
Chinese than having a poor China.....
Lily

--- John Spiers wrote:

> If the numbers can be relied upon, then China is one quarter of the world's
> population...
> which mean they have got everything going on at once... here strict
> communists in control,
> there laissez faire free markets, and everything in between. China is too
> big to described in
> any useful way. I am not so interested in where they are as where they are
> going, and it
> seems to me they are growing, improving, advancing and fulfilling chairman
> Mao's imperative
> More Better Cheaper Faster, although through the freedom Mao hated. And as I
> said before, I
> think China will be defined by the Chinese the next hundred years, as opposed
> to the last
> 100 when China was defined by foreignors.
>
> I advocate free markets, not capitalism, partly because I don't think
> capitalism can stand
> anywhere, with its inherent insufficiency. (Capitalism is a necessary
> function in free markets,
> but not sufficient for free markets). Also, in China's history a peasant
> rising to the top is not
> unheard of, so I cannot see what would prevent that now.
>
> I don't see China trapped by any need to keep the machine churning, since
> most workers
> head to the city on a mission: make enough money to buy big screen tv, get
> some dental
> work done, pull together a grubstake to open a juice stand back home. Of
> course, millions
> who do well stick around and move up. In a recession millions would make a
> decision: am I
> happier here in the city, or would I be happier back in the village. Most i
> think would ride out
> the rough times back in the village. I read somewhere that something like
> 40% of the Irish
> and Italian immigrants who came to USA in the 1800's also returned home to
> stay.
>
> Competition means to "strive with" and we are in competition with the Chinese
> economically
> just as our athletes compete with their athletes in the Olympics. Both sides
> benefit in
> competition. If China has the largest population in the world, shouldn't
> they have the largest
> economy in the world? They've been the richest country on the planet before,
> and i don't
> think they presented much of a threat. On the other hand, an impoverished
> China was our
> enemy. I hope no one thinks that if China gets rich we must get poor.
>
> China has stopped building detention camps and I read in the NY Times this
> week,
> Halliburton received a $350 million dollar contract to start building
> detention centers in USA
> for the Department of Homeland Security. This is the wrong direction for
> USA. Sure, it is
> republicans who are leading USA down, but it will be no different under the
> democrats. Does
> anyone think Hiillary Clinton as president would shut down gitmo or liquidate
> the detention
> centers? No way, she'd love the power... and inmate #000000001 would be Bill
> Clinton when
> she is in charge. Payback!
>
> John
>
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:08:00 -0000, "mgranich" wrote :
>
> > How would you describe Chinese government? I know China is billed
> > as a Communist country, but Robert Reich stated that China is as
> > Capitalist of a country as you can get.
> >
> > So, can you describe China as having a Capitalist economy with a
> > Totalitarian government? Is there a ruling elite like an Oligarchy
> > OR, can a peasant from the country side step up and lead China?
> >
> > Can Capitalism stand on its own, severed from the political form of
> > government?
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > PS, Reich also felt at China's current growth rate, it would be the
> > largest economy in ~25 years.
> >
> > AND,
> >
> > The biggest social problem in China are people leaving farms heading
> > for the city looking for work and China is under pressure to keep
> > the factories humming, building our import products.

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