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RE: [spiers] Education

Martin,

Congratulations, and you'll allow every father his pride in his daughter's
graduation this June,
as I was when my daughter graduated from UCSB 2 years ago, and I swore to anyone
who
would listen the UC Santa Barbara was on par with Berkeley now, and no longer a
party
school.

Take any school, even the celebrated Williams College, and the scope and
sequence of today
is not what it was 30 years ago. Even St. John's out of Annapolis and Santa Fe
ain't what it
used to be. I'd bet my money I am right.

John
On Tue, 30 May 2006 09:49:37 -0700, martin@mendiola.us wrote :

> John,
>
> "What is missing in the market place is a bachelors degree in the humanities,
a classical
liberal arts education. A bachelors degree today is roughly equal to a high
school diploma 30
years ago... and a liberal arts education is simply not available in usa,
like soap. You
have to make your own to get it."
>
>
> Our daughter just graduated in June from Williams College in Massachussets.
An excellent
liberal arts private institution probably unmatched in the world.
>
>
> Martin Mendiola
> 305-445-2525
> Martin@Mendiola.US
>
>
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [spiers] Education
> > From: Richard Ingels
> > Date: Sun, May 28, 2006 12:12 pm
> > To: spiers@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Richard,
> >
> > Not off topic at all, education is a service that is wide open... in fact i
wrote a masters
thesis on self-supporting noncredit education 20 years a go, and hte field is
far wider today
than then.
> >
> > The best model is the University of Washington Experimental College, and all
of their
records and business plans and budgets are public domain information.
> >
> > the best free-market success story is the University of Phoenix, and
continuing
education instructor who became a billionaire when he realized govt education
missing the
adult market.
> >
> > It seems to me Quilting, Tai Chi, Quickbooks, massage, small business,
astrology,
astronomy... all that is covered. What is missing in the market place is a
bachelors degree in
the humanities, a classical liberal arts education. A bachelors degree today is
roughly equal
to a high school diploma 30 years ago... and a liberal arts education is simply
not available in
usa, like soap. You have to make your own to get it.
> >
> > Accreditation is the Berlin Wall of education, so the trick would be to
offer a hardcore
liberal arts degree, unaccredited. Work thru the trivium and qaudrivium in 36
courses over 4
years, using those first rate scholars who by bad luck did not get one of the
govt-limited
professorships at govt schools. offer a bachelors degree superior to what you
can get at
stanford of harvard, at about $12000. Market it to those who simply do not need
a medallion
degree, but would like to be educated.
> >
> > There, Steal my idea.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > John,
> > This is off topic from import/export I realize, but there is no adult
> > education continuing education within 25 miles of my town. I wanted to
> > explore setting up a local community school where those with expertise
> > could share with those interested and maybe make a few bucks (and
> > perhaps pay myself some for setting it up). Quilting, Tai Chi,
> > Quickbooks, massage, small business, astrology, astronomy, etc.
> >
> > I know you've been working with your university experiment and was
> > wondering if you had any tips. Nonprofit? Grants? Private for profit?
> > How much to charge? How to advertise? How to do sign-ups (all online?).
> > I was thinking eventually I may be able to make a movie of the really
> > good presenters to sell as a how-to or self-help video course. I should
> > mention I live in a community with a high percentage of educated
> > retired folks.
> >
> > Is this something that is way bigger than I realize and not at all
> > worth it except through the city or county or activity center or senior
> > center? Or are there any models of this where someone has done it
> > privately and made a few bucks in the process (plus getting to sit in
> > on the classes for fun)?
> >
> > Eventually I would offer the online courses (such as yours) as well and
> > was wondering what is required to do that. I know I signed up for your
> > course through the local community college in another city where I used
> > to live but don't see that offered around here anywhere.
> >
> > Maybe your next book topic? Do you foresee a time where we will be
> > taking courses from overseas colleges who can offer it cheaper? At
> > least for the non-credit type? I wonder if at some time we will have a
> > US accredited overseas college we can attend online and get a degree
> > for a fraction of other colleges (import). Or perhaps the opposite and
> > have foreign attendees online at a US accredited college (export) for a
> > full degree?
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Compete on Design!
> >
> > www.johnspiers.com

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