Air America Bankrupt

Re: [spiers] Re: Air America Bankrupt

> In the late 1980's there was an estimated 200 AM
> stations broadcasting all
> day talk radio. Today there are over 1200 stations >
broadcasting talk radio. Radio isn't dying...

Maybe I should have said "over the air" radio is
dying. The Internet is the new media king. How about
looking at the last 3 years as compared to the 80s and
90s? I bet the growth has slowed dramatically. In
the 1980s, there was no Internet(as we know it today),
no ipods, no pod casts, so yes radio stations grew.
Now, Feedburner.com distributes more podcasts than
there are radio stations on the planet. Here is an
article from eweek.com

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1950380,00.asp


> Radio will always be around.
Yes, in some way it will. I should rephrase my
point... "Over the air" radio's influence is waning.
It's getting watered down. I wouldn't throw my
Advertising money towards it.


> Try reading a blog
> while doing your work. It's
> not convenient. Especially for many of the blue
> collar type jobs.

Well, the point I was trying to make was that liberals
are not interested in shrill talk radio. Of course I'm
speculating, but I think liberals are on the Internet
in droves. And blue collar folks can podcast too.

> Podcasting will be a very powerful format I believe.
> While it will be more
> prevalent in the future, one can see the convenience
> and abilities it
> provides.

Where I work(A large west coast university), the
future is now. I think I'm one of the few staff in
our 100+ person Health Sciences Dept that does not
have an ipod.

> Why did Air America fail? Well to be honest I think
> that there were three
> large reasons.
>
> 1. They didn't provide a product that was any
> differrent than what is
> already provided through other media.

I can accept this...


> 2. They knew plainly knew nothing about the business
> of radio. They tried to
> run the station as a 527 using donor money to prop
> up the station instead of
> running it as a business startup... getting
> customers first.

Yes, I can accept this too...

> 3. Their beliefs ideas and thoughts were rejected.

I know plenty of liberals who share the beliefs and
thoughts of Air America, but DID NOT listen to Air
America.... They surf the net instead. Anecdotal
sure, but I have a hunch the pattern is widespread.
Liberals don't listen to the shrill kind of talk
radio. The conservatives can crow, but I think they
may be eating crow when they realize they have been
dominating the wrong media.






> Jason
>
>
> On 10/15/06, M A Granich wrote:
> >
> > It has nothing to do with being "on the right
> side of
> > a political situation." Liberals don't listen to
> talk
> > radio, they surf the net. Conservatives are just
> > that... conservative so they'll stay with old
> > technology... the radio. Meanwhile, progressive
> > liberals have moved to the Internet blogosphere
> like
> > gangbusters. The number of liberal blogs on world
> > wide web DWARFS the conservative blogs. The top
> > Progressive blog, The Daily KOS, has a readership
> of
> > 3.8 million/day, three times that of the NY times
> and
> > I bet more than many FOX News shows. So, the
> argument
> > "liberal/socialistic/communistic drivel must not
> have
> > as much following as a very vocal minority would
> have
> > us believing." is wrong. You'll find such drivel
> on
> > the Internet. If you want to listen to
> > conservative/right wing/fascist drivel while
> having
> > your ability to think subjugated, turn on the
> radio.
> >
> > I think radio is dying. And newspapers are not far
> > behind. Several of my work colleagues download
> > pod-casts of their favorite commercial free
> programs
> > and get their news from blogs. I've recently read
> a
> > couple of articles about the plummeting radio
> > listenership especially in the all important 25 to
> 54
> > year old demographic. This is just my
> unprofessional
> > opinion, but I would dump your radio and newspaper
> > stock ASAP.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > --- "deaneaslick@sbcglobal.net
> "
> > > > wrote:
> >
> > > --- In spiers@yahoogroups.com
> , "John Spiers"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll have to say I disagree with the line of
> > > thinking that the
> > > liberal talk radio bankruptcy was a result of
> not
> > > being on the right
> > > side of the present political situation. Many of
> the
> > > conservative
> > > shows have been through numerous changes of
> > > political parties and are
> > > surviving. Some very nicely. This fact alone
> > > disproves that
> > > hypothesis. The major key to radio success is
> still
> > > advertising money
> > > no matter what the format. Advertising money
> follows
> > > listenership.
> > > Unfortunately, the listenership numbers must not
> > > have been there for
> > > the advertising money. Gov't money alone
> couldn't
> > > entirely support a
> > > liberal format with the hugh numbers necessary
> for
> > > the needed impact.
> > > Perhaps shows proclaiming the liberal message as
> > > their main topic are
> > > not worth hearing. As an aside, Imus and Stern
> both
> > > seem to proclaim
> > > liberal leanings, and are very successful. Their
> > > main thrust though
> > > is more of a bawdy /sexual nature. Not much in
> the
> > > way of left
> > > leaning politics. Again liberal/socialistic/
> > > communistic drivel must
> > > not have as much following as a very vocal
> minority
> > > would have us
> > > believing.
> > >
> > > Also, to rub our hands in glee when the $ starts
> > > flowing to a group
> > > of people (the libs/socialist/communists)that
> the
> > > general public does
> > > not want to hear/ give listenership support is
> > > ridiculous and
> > > downright scary.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > Conservative Talkradio is crowing that liberal
> > > talkradio is
> > > literally bankrupt
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ylbblv
> > > >
> > > > but not so fast...
> > > >
> > > > with the government in control of the media,
> > > massive funds flow
> > > here they want it to flow...
> > > > one of the largest advertisers out there is he
> > > military, obviously
> > > not buying time at Air
> > > > America.
> > > >
> > > > Let's see what happens when the dems take
> control
> > > and Air America
> > > starts gettiing ad
> > > > contracts from Housing and Urban Development,
> the
> > > Ag dept and the
> > > TSA. Radio stations
> > > > will clammer to carry Air America for the
> money,
> > > and the drivel

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