Wednesday, May 23, 2012

How Is This Relevant to Us?

There is no case to be made for the existence of the state.  None.



What goes around comes around...

What is it about uniforms that makes people monsters?



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2 comments:

Anonymous said...

the great answer to your question "what is it about uniforms that makes people monsters?" was answered by Philip Zimbardo in his famous Stanford prison experiments (systems of evil) in the 1970's and Milgram's experiments. Bowing to authority (to those who are in a uniform) and neither being responsible. The one in uniform is just following orders and the one in regular dress is obeying authority as evidenced by a uniform. Scary.
christina

John Wiley Spiers said...

You will note that a state is dependent on the consent of the governed. When one consents to the state, it exists. When that state's agents give an order, it is on your behalf. When the person in the uniform is "just following orders" the ultimate authority is in fact, himself. When someone says "I'll take responsibility..." that does not work, because one cannot pass responsibility for an act to another. If one gives and illegal order, and promises to take responsibility, it is a lie. The person executing the order is responsible for the act.

At Abu Ghraib those criminal soldiers could have, and should have, gotten their orders in writing. You can be shot for not following orders, but not for getting orders in writing.