RE: [spiers] Re: Problem with Fashion
Pardon me if I leaf-frogged on this thought, but here is something that
might be relevant.
Fashion vs. Style- Fashion follows trends whereas style in theory endures
(beyond day to day) by its nature.
If you can design for style (not necessarily, traditional either) instead of
strictly fashion, you might be more groundbreaking and like John's idea of
staying close to innovation. Timeless design, cannot be formula bred, but
you can sure try. How many people thought the Lamborghini Countach could be
out "dated" looking. Even that exotic machine pales next to what's coming
out now. I think within that balance lies innovation.
Glen
-----Original Message-----
From: wileyccc@aol.com [mailto:wileyccc@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 4:39 PM
To: orlpag@msn.com
Subject: [spiers] Re: Problem with Fashion
In a message dated 10/16/01 8:23:44 AM, student writes:
Product: My father owns an Auto Parts in Puerto Rico and he would like to
obtain a line of tires (new in the market and competitive in price and
quality: eg. something similar to Michelin in quality but competitive in
price), to distribute in Puerto Rico. He says the demand for tires is
excellent. I have been doing some search through the internet but with not
to
much success (I guess). That's the reason I am taking this course. Since
you
mention in class that the product should be unique, do tires are not a good
product? What will be the disadvantages, if any?
For thought assignment you said to think about any product we would like to
trade. I LOVE Fashion, I have experience in the area working for boutiques,
I studied modeling, my sister was Miss PR Petite and Professional model and
was involved in most of his activities. Also had the opportunity to buy
merchandise in New York @ The Fashion Avenue, for a boutique in PR.
However,
I am conscious fashion is a very volatile market. I really want to start my
business but don't have a specific unique idea and that's what I need. What
do you suggest?
<< If you do not care about tires, you will never be competitive.
What do you mean? (Maybe it is my English)
***there is much work in bbusiness, if you do not care about an item (tires)
you will not do the work necessary to be competitive.***
there are companies in USA that make inexpensive tires.
We meet with a company in Miami that they say the manufacture tires. During
the meeting we discovered that they manufactured in different parts of the
world (Germany, China, etc.) It seems we were taking with the distributor
and
we wanted to deal with the manufacturer. That's why we were searching in
China.
***china sells to distributors because distributors buy one million tires.
Will your father buy one million tires?***
If you LOVE fashion, why bother with tires? There are people who LOVE
tires, let your father work with them.
He does not speak English and there are a very few people in my town how
does
it. So, he is hiring me to do so.
***I have traded with china for years, there are many many chinese who speak
spanish, so language is not a problem. the problem is can you buy enough
tires to make selling them to you worth the chinese time?***
But besides my father I would love to trade any other product.
what problems in fashion need to be solved?***
The fact that it is a very volatile market - "easy enter...easy exit". How
can I do?
Amyluz
>>
***All markets are volatile. Fashion is clothes. Clothes are not volatile
(unless you are Versace). What do you want to see happen in clothes for
next
year?***
John
Tuesday, October 16, 2001
Re: Problem with Fashion
Re: Problem with Fashion
Re: Problem with Fashion
In a message dated 10/16/01 9:05:45 AM, orlpag@msn.com writes:
<< Clothes are not volatile (unless you are Versace). What do you want to
see happen in clothes for next
year?***
I am surprised. Studying my bachelor degree (back in 1984 to 1988), one of
the first things I heard (in class and read in a book) about clothes market
is that it was #1 volatile market (we were discussing the entry and exit of a
product) since the competence is huge and very aggressive. So, they were
supposed to be the #1 bankruptcy business.
*** Why discuss entry and exit of product in a market with someone who has
never entered or exited a market? So what if the competence is huge and
aggressive? They are only people. So what if it is the #1 bankruptcy
business? If you do not like bankruptcy, don't go bankrupt. It appears they
taught you in school that the market controls your business, not you. the
truth is YOU control your business. If fashion is #1 bankruptcy business,
then it is only because fashion people like going bankrupt. ( I am not
kidding of course, for some people, knowling you can go bankrupt means you
can take more risks, so they do.)***
(Maybe I am thinking with a retail mind and not like an importer).
Now, to be honest I don't know what do I want to happen in clothes for next
year. My mind is in blank... Maybe is I don't know which direction to look
for.
***If you love fashion, start thinking what you want to have happen next
year. It is up to you.***
John
Re: Problem with Fashion
In a message dated 10/16/01 8:23:44 AM, student writes:
Product: My father owns an Auto Parts in Puerto Rico and he would like to
obtain a line of tires (new in the market and competitive in price and
quality: eg. something similar to Michelin in quality but competitive in
price), to distribute in Puerto Rico. He says the demand for tires is
excellent. I have been doing some search through the internet but with not to
much success (I guess). That's the reason I am taking this course. Since you
mention in class that the product should be unique, do tires are not a good
product? What will be the disadvantages, if any?
For thought assignment you said to think about any product we would like to
trade. I LOVE Fashion, I have experience in the area working for boutiques,
I studied modeling, my sister was Miss PR Petite and Professional model and
was involved in most of his activities. Also had the opportunity to buy
merchandise in New York @ The Fashion Avenue, for a boutique in PR. However,
I am conscious fashion is a very volatile market. I really want to start my
business but don't have a specific unique idea and that's what I need. What
do you suggest?
<< If you do not care about tires, you will never be competitive.
What do you mean? (Maybe it is my English)
***there is much work in bbusiness, if you do not care about an item (tires)
you will not do the work necessary to be competitive.***
there are companies in USA that make inexpensive tires.
We meet with a company in Miami that they say the manufacture tires. During
the meeting we discovered that they manufactured in different parts of the
world (Germany, China, etc.) It seems we were taking with the distributor and
we wanted to deal with the manufacturer. That's why we were searching in
China.
***china sells to distributors because distributors buy one million tires.
Will your father buy one million tires?***
If you LOVE fashion, why bother with tires? There are people who LOVE
tires, let your father work with them.
He does not speak English and there are a very few people in my town how does
it. So, he is hiring me to do so.
***I have traded with china for years, there are many many chinese who speak
spanish, so language is not a problem. the problem is can you buy enough
tires to make selling them to you worth the chinese time?***
But besides my father I would love to trade any other product.
what problems in fashion need to be solved?***
The fact that it is a very volatile market - "easy enter...easy exit". How
can I do?
Amyluz
>>
***All markets are volatile. Fashion is clothes. Clothes are not volatile
(unless you are Versace). What do you want to see happen in clothes for next
year?***
John