North Korea and China

Re: [spiers] North Korea and China

Anthony,

N Korea does not make a move that China does not approve of. If N Korea has the
bomb, it is compliments of China, since N Korea has no outside contacts to speak
of.

Just because Fox News calls it a crisis does not make it so for you and me. N
Korea is closely allied with China, and gets the bomb. China wants the middle
east to love China. What message is China sending to iran? "We can protect you
from USA."

(At the Canton trade fair the direction signs to restaurants, services, etc
include directions to the Mosques the chinese maintain in the facilities, and
this is the year of celebration of China's greatest seafarer, a Mongol Moslem
castrata, with the Moslem part emphasised).

I'll say it again; not only is USA leadership way outclassed by the chinese
players in this competition, our side tends to run the wrong way scoring points
for the Chinese.

I believe structurally USA can out compete anyone anytime. But we are
dismantling that structure fast, and bricking up elsewhere. Compete means to
'strive with' in which everyone wins according to their merit... with the
neocons it is not competition but combat that is desired.

I wouldn't worry about N Korean nukes falling on USA. Those are underpowered,
recklessly aimed things. I'd worry about USA nukes falling on USA. Those are
awesome perfectly targeted things. You know those monsters are computer and
radio controlled. A secret worry is our competitors have broken our codes and
hacked our systems, with the ability to redirect our missiles if launched. We
aim for Beijing but hit LA. As a practical matter the nukes are now being taken
off our Trident submarines and replaced with cruise missiles.

When the mighty Imperial Russian fleet set out to settle Japan's hash in 1905
the Japanese sent the fleet to the bottom of the Tsushima Straights using
western technology. Big surprise that started Russias decline into chaos. When
the English beat the French at Agincourt the English did so with longbows they
got from the french. It is always thus, the superior forces weapons are turned
back on themselves.

When the Chinese govt was obliged to pay damages to a western power a century or
so ago, under the "Most Favored Nation" rules, the same had to be paid to
everyone else, too. UK, France, Germany would keep the money, but USA would
take the payment and build hospitals and colleges in China. The Chinese
remember this. It is the way we used to be.

In 1985 the USA car-bombed a mosque in Beirut killing 80 outright and maiming
250 innocents in an attempt to assassinate a particular "terrorist." (We
missed). We used such messy means so everyone would blame the Jews, who were
notorious for careless killings, according to Bob Woodward in his book "Veil".
It where we are.

I think the Amish have the better response to a terror attack, more of an
American response. They may not be exempt from murder, but they are exempt from
military duty, social security taxes, government schooling, and a host of other
depradations. No one is obliged to stay. The Amish are a working model of
anarchy in practice.


John
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:26:38 -0000, "mgranich" wrote :

>
> Why isn't China offering a solution to the North Korean crisis. If
> China is all powerful in Asia, why aren't they aggressively telling
> North Korea to stop developing nuclear weapons. Certainly it's in the
> best interests of China to have a peaceful Asia. They would not want
> to see one of their trading partners, ie South Korea, Japan, US,
> nuked.... right? It would be a disaster for everyone.
>
> Anthony

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