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Re: [spiers] trade mark, brand name
JH,
I am glad you are confident your company wilkl do so well people will copy your
name... a patent or trademark are what is called intellectual property rights,
and one secures those through a legal process.
To my mind, you ought to just call your clothing company Joon Ho and as you
become famous you can secure the intellectual property rights... for now, i
think all of your time and effort must be focussed on customers and getting your
products right...forget about intellectual property rights for now...
john
John,
For textile, if we have a brand name for clothing, how can we patent it or
trademark it? Therefore, no other clothing will have that name.
Thanks
Jh
Success in Importing
Re: Success in Importing
Hi John,
You are exactly right. The excitement about running a small business
is the freedom, the
lifestsyle and once you have it you can never go back to working for
someone else. In the
beginning there are lots of fears and long hours doing new things one
is not used to doing
but out of that comes more confidence - now I work 2-5 hours a day,
my partner varies
with what is going on, somethings working 8 hour days sometimes he
has days off in a
row. We both ride bikes, garden, enjoy being at home, play music do
art, take Yoga
classes, love to think out new ideas and direction
s........................and our life is about
being creative.
The money is nice, and having a good CPA very important, but knowing
that you can use
all your various talents to make something work to the best of your
ability is what is fun.
Thanks for being there John, to inspire and teach possiblilty.
Susan
--- In spiers@yahoogroups.com, wileyccc@a... wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I want to thank Crowboy for rising to my challenge to defiine
success.
> Notice something... Crowboy started out by naming a number, and
then went straight
> into lifestyle ... view home, exciting developing products in field
crowboy
> loves, can't wait to get into next ideas.
>
> Starting with a passion, experienced a problem, came up with a
solution,
> constantly innovating... I dare say "money" is not the main
motivation. Which is
> something I've been reflecting on...
>
> Last Saturday I taught a seminar in which a fellow who is highly
educated in
> business was keen on money opportunities. His understanding was
that small
> business was different from big business only in size. This is not
true...
> small is different from big in kind. By the end of the day he was
no longer
> looking for big quick hits in flipping drugs internationally, and
more in
> revolutioniziing the drug industry. Yes... better. He was in the
class cause what he
> learned in school was not working so well, and now he is
considering an
> alternative approach.
>
> I've always I only save people time and money by what I teach, and
one of the
> ways is getting people faster to where they should have started in
the
> beginning, that is with the best product or service the should have
been importing
> or exporting or both, from the start.
>
> Small businesses support the lifestyle of the owner, and how much
money that
> takes is up to the owner. Further, the business pays for much of
the
> lifestyle, for example, when I wanted to finish a bachelors degree
and get a masters,
> my CPA showed me how to make that a business expense. The business
is the
> lifestyle, the lifestyle is the business. My working definition
for "success"
> is when you stop worrying about enough money and start worrying
about enough
> time.
>
> Ultimately, being self-employed is about doing what is right.
>
> Side note... I know I dismiss the web as an opportunity to develop
business,
> but here we have Crowboy expliciting citing the web as the means to
accomplish
> sales. Well, me too... my book took 16 years to write, and
finally took
> form when I began using the nweb and forums I set up to perfect the
material.
> Also, The web is moving far more volume of the book than retail
stores.
>
> So yes, even I use the web... what I object to is the tedious
assumption that
> all one has to do is open a web site and they will get rich. My
experience
> is the vast majority simply waste time trying to get biz on the
web. More
> stories contradicting me wil be appreciated.
>
> Crowboy asked some more question which i will answer in a separate
post. But
> let me make a prediction: Sooner rather than later, the internet
will be
> shut down. Just as London turned off the cell phone network last
week, since
> cell phones are excellent trigger devices for bombs, the time will
come that the
> internet will be shut down for national defence. There is not a
single one of
> us who has not had our financial info hacked by enemy entities, and
it is
> only a matter of time when they hit us by hitting the financial
network. It will
> be back to newsletters and snail mail ... never let the internet
get to more
> than 20% of your revenue, so you can weather any hit.
>
> The iinternet as we know it is the result of massive malinvestment,
with
> fantastic waste as part of the game. If what we have not has to be
dismantled, I
> am not too worried, a completely new and rational web would
eventually replace
> it. One step back, two steps forward.
>
> John
>
>
> In a message dated 7/12/05 2:17:44 AM, crowboy@e... writes:
>
> << I would define successful in that we make about 360,000 gross a
year
>
> with myself and my partner, bought a view home in Seattle in the
last 9
>
> months, do this full time and have a family member ship for us part
>
> time. My partner and I started making adapters for the Kodak
DC265
>
> digital camera about 5 years ago after a friend bought a camera and
>
> could not attach lenses or filters to the camera. We came up with
a
>
> prototype, took a photo and ask if anyone would be interested on a
>
> large camera forum - they were very interested. So we hired a
>
> machinist locally here in Seattle and put up a website. The key
was we
>
> had a unique item that we would sell around - meaning we added
>
> filters, lenses, basic camera accessories as our customers wanted
to
>
> buy products all in one place.
>
>
> It was tough going in the beginning because we had lots of
customers
>
> but did not have any credit, (we were artists and poor) at least
not
>
> enough to take credit cards online..........so we did PayPal and
checks
>
> for several years, now we are able to take credit cards from all
over
>
> the world.
>
>
> We do not pay any advertising costs, we have no ads on our
>
> website..............all our customers are by word of mouth due to
>
> camera forums. We did not think this up or plan it, it just
happened
>
> this way..........
>
>
> It has become much more competitive in the past 2 years, but have
been
>
> able to stay ahead of the competition by improving the product and
>
> staying in a field where customers are more and more discerning in
what
>
> goes on their $800.00 cameras - our customers are 99.9% male,
newbies
>
> and more professional camera types.
>
>
> Since the adapter is very simple in design, we have been focusing
on
>
> the finishes, matching them to the camera bodies, we are trying to
>
> branch out into other camera related products we see missing in the
>
> market. Since we already have a customer base we can introduce new
>
> items or have old customers try a new prototype and tell us what
they
>
> think.
>
>
> So I would say find a niche market in an area you already have an
>
> interest in - forums are an excellent place to find people
complaining
>
> about how things don't work or what they would like to see made.
>
> Improve products that already exist, or use materials from one
field of
>
> interest and apply them to an unrelated area. We have an old
customer
>
> who is a dentist who is using a new tiny digital camera to take
>
> pictures of his patients teeth at $200.00 rather than the old
equipment
>
> usually used by dentists at $800.00. He has had so many dentist
>
> friends say can you set me up? I am not sure what to buy and how
to
>
> take the pictures. So he quit is job and sells packages and gives
>
> seminars to other dentists.........all over the US.
>
>
> One of the latest success stories in our area of digital
photography is
>
> a guy who made a lens that makes a photo have the effect of
Vaseline on
>
> the glass, though he has improved it by allowing the user to move
the
>
> center or sweet spot to anywhere in the frame. Years ago this was
all
>
> the rage with photographers, but he came out with this about 9
months
>
> ago and it is all over the web, in the latest photography
magazines.
>
> ..........and that is all he makes, it is called the "Lens
>
> Baby".
>
>
> Craig invented the Lensbabies Flexible Lens Mounting System (Patent
>
> Pending) in an effort to replace his Holga™ film camera with
its
>
> digital equivalent. After getting enthusiastic feedback from fellow
>
> photographers longing to create unique imagery for their clients,
Craig
>
> decided to make Lensbabies available to everyone.
>
> http://www.lensbabies.com/
Tuesday, July 12, 2005
Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
trade mark, brand name
John,
For textile, if we have a brand name for clothing, how can we patent it or
trademark it? Therefore, no other clothing will have that name.
Thanks
Jh
need help
Re: [spiers] Need help
In a message dated 7/12/05 2:25:08 AM, inna1@sbcglobal.net writes:
<< This is Inna, your former student. I am looking for the fulfillment house.
What is the name of the fulfillment house in Sparks, Nevada that you
referring in your book? >>
Well, I've worked with several, but the key is to have teh same distribution
channel as your competitors...assuming you know who they are, and where they
are shipping from (you find this in their catalogs and price lists... under
terms and conditions it will say "FOB SOME TOWN" ) then you use the same ones as
your competitors.
If Sparks is the place, consider visiting for a few days and touring the
various operations...you'll learn a lot.
John
designers and percentages
Re: [spiers] When working with designer how do you establish a percentage on a product.
In a message dated 7/12/05 2:17:44 AM, crowboy@earthlink.net writes:
<< I thought you said patents were not the way to go, they are very
expensive, and in the camera field it moves so quickly anyone can
upgrade a product.........but................. I see that the
"Lensbaby" guy in the story above mentions "patent pending"............
***Yes YOU stay away from patents, but let the fellow you have design them
own the patent... and the patentholder then licenses you...I'll get a standard
agreement up on the website soon...***
Right now our adapters are made in the US, anything we design and have
our Indian vendor make they will make exclusively for us at .20 extra a
part, I don"t think it would behoove us to let them sell to our
competitors, the way we make money now it to make the product and sell
retail. If we are able to pull off this new product we were hoping to
become a wholesaler of the specialty item in the US and Overseas.
***Let the indians sell to everyone overseas... upon agreement with you...you
get 25 (?) cents each piece sold, while you sleep... they deposit the money
in iindia for yu to use when you visit...or use in paypal or whetever...***
I am not sure what you mean by "the designer has to worry about any
legal liability on IP infringements" I don't know what IP
is.............. >>
***IP = intellectual property rights, the term encompassing trade marks,
copyrights and patents.***
John
Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
Re: [spiers] Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
hi John!
Thanks for your reply! I'm always amazed, I'm sure
hundreds of people email you each day and yet, you are
able to reply rather quickly...thank you!
I didn't see the link to the pdf doc... can you
resend?
I'm actually not looking to export my own personal
product but may have an opportunity to help a US trade
company that has exclusive distribution rights for
certain products for China.
I wanted to get some preliminary info to see if I
might be able to help and I do have some contacts in
Shanghai. But I definitely thought of you as someone
who may have some solid insight on doing the export
side.
I like your idea though about targeting the small
business or area...however most local Shanghainese
will most likely not be able to afford the US products
at the price they need to sell once in China.
The target would be the smaller slice of working
professionals which small slice as it may be, is still
a lot of people....the middle class segment of China
consists of 300 million people! and they are steadily
getting more affluent. They just need to be educated
on how great our US products are! :)
The challenge is not in the logistics (though I will
definitely check out if they could be saving there),
but on targeting and infiltrating the right
distribution channels to get their products in the
right places.
Hope to hear from you soon again!
--Ahnee
--- wileyccc@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/11/05 10:52:11 AM,
> akmin2000@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << Does anyone have experience bringing US products
> to
>
> market in China? If so, do you have any insight on
>
> the what the process is to get your products in the
>
> right distribution channels?
>
> ***Yes, I have sold fruit into China, but most of my
> experience is in buying
> from the Chinese. The key as always is to be the
> best source for the item in
> particular that you represent.***
>
>
> Can someone map out what the process is and for
>
> example, what it would take to get your products in
>
> the retail stores like CarreFour in Shanghai?
>
> ***CArrefour is a French version of Walmart, and in
> fact I think they are #2
> retailer worldwide behind Walmart... my argument
> would be, like walmart, we
> literaly have no business trying to serve such a
> huge customer... we don't have
> the economies of scale in manufacturing, in
> distribution and finance... on the
> other had, yes China is selling more and more to
> USA, and USA sales to China
> are growiing as well... why not sell USA products in
> an are you can provide a
> value... on this website is a .pdf copy of the
> textbook I wrote...downlaod it
> and review chapter 8 for a gameplan of exporting at
> the smal biz level...***
>
>
> If you have any insight you could share, it would be
>
> much appreciated. The products are for US health
> and
>
> beauty goods.
>
>
> ***A wide open market at teh small biz level...***
>
> JOhn
Success in Importing
Folks,
I want to thank Crowboy for rising to my challenge to defiine success.
Notice something... Crowboy started out by naming a number, and then went
straight
into lifestyle ... view home, exciting developing products in field crowboy
loves, can't wait to get into next ideas.
Starting with a passion, experienced a problem, came up with a solution,
constantly innovating... I dare say "money" is not the main motivation. Which
is
something I've been reflecting on...
Last Saturday I taught a seminar in which a fellow who is highly educated in
business was keen on money opportunities. His understanding was that small
business was different from big business only in size. This is not true...
small is different from big in kind. By the end of the day he was no longer
looking for big quick hits in flipping drugs internationally, and more in
revolutioniziing the drug industry. Yes... better. He was in the class cause
what he
learned in school was not working so well, and now he is considering an
alternative approach.
I've always I only save people time and money by what I teach, and one of the
ways is getting people faster to where they should have started in the
beginning, that is with the best product or service the should have been
importing
or exporting or both, from the start.
Small businesses support the lifestyle of the owner, and how much money that
takes is up to the owner. Further, the business pays for much of the
lifestyle, for example, when I wanted to finish a bachelors degree and get a
masters,
my CPA showed me how to make that a business expense. The business is the
lifestyle, the lifestyle is the business. My working definition for "success"
is when you stop worrying about enough money and start worrying about enough
time.
Ultimately, being self-employed is about doing what is right.
Side note... I know I dismiss the web as an opportunity to develop business,
but here we have Crowboy expliciting citing the web as the means to accomplish
sales. Well, me too... my book took 16 years to write, and finally took
form when I began using the nweb and forums I set up to perfect the material.
Also, The web is moving far more volume of the book than retail stores.
So yes, even I use the web... what I object to is the tedious assumption that
all one has to do is open a web site and they will get rich. My experience
is the vast majority simply waste time trying to get biz on the web. More
stories contradicting me wil be appreciated.
Crowboy asked some more question which i will answer in a separate post. But
let me make a prediction: Sooner rather than later, the internet will be
shut down. Just as London turned off the cell phone network last week, since
cell phones are excellent trigger devices for bombs, the time will come that the
internet will be shut down for national defence. There is not a single one of
us who has not had our financial info hacked by enemy entities, and it is
only a matter of time when they hit us by hitting the financial network. It
will
be back to newsletters and snail mail ... never let the internet get to more
than 20% of your revenue, so you can weather any hit.
The iinternet as we know it is the result of massive malinvestment, with
fantastic waste as part of the game. If what we have not has to be dismantled,
I
am not too worried, a completely new and rational web would eventually replace
it. One step back, two steps forward.
John
In a message dated 7/12/05 2:17:44 AM, crowboy@earthlink.net writes:
<< I would define successful in that we make about 360,000 gross a year
with myself and my partner, bought a view home in Seattle in the last 9
months, do this full time and have a family member ship for us part
time. My partner and I started making adapters for the Kodak DC265
digital camera about 5 years ago after a friend bought a camera and
could not attach lenses or filters to the camera. We came up with a
prototype, took a photo and ask if anyone would be interested on a
large camera forum - they were very interested. So we hired a
machinist locally here in Seattle and put up a website. The key was we
had a unique item that we would sell around - meaning we added
filters, lenses, basic camera accessories as our customers wanted to
buy products all in one place.
It was tough going in the beginning because we had lots of customers
but did not have any credit, (we were artists and poor) at least not
enough to take credit cards online..........so we did PayPal and checks
for several years, now we are able to take credit cards from all over
the world.
We do not pay any advertising costs, we have no ads on our
website..............all our customers are by word of mouth due to
camera forums. We did not think this up or plan it, it just happened
this way..........
It has become much more competitive in the past 2 years, but have been
able to stay ahead of the competition by improving the product and
staying in a field where customers are more and more discerning in what
goes on their $800.00 cameras - our customers are 99.9% male, newbies
and more professional camera types.
Since the adapter is very simple in design, we have been focusing on
the finishes, matching them to the camera bodies, we are trying to
branch out into other camera related products we see missing in the
market. Since we already have a customer base we can introduce new
items or have old customers try a new prototype and tell us what they
think.
So I would say find a niche market in an area you already have an
interest in - forums are an excellent place to find people complaining
about how things don't work or what they would like to see made.
Improve products that already exist, or use materials from one field of
interest and apply them to an unrelated area. We have an old customer
who is a dentist who is using a new tiny digital camera to take
pictures of his patients teeth at $200.00 rather than the old equipment
usually used by dentists at $800.00. He has had so many dentist
friends say can you set me up? I am not sure what to buy and how to
take the pictures. So he quit is job and sells packages and gives
seminars to other dentists.........all over the US.
One of the latest success stories in our area of digital photography is
a guy who made a lens that makes a photo have the effect of Vaseline on
the glass, though he has improved it by allowing the user to move the
center or sweet spot to anywhere in the frame. Years ago this was all
the rage with photographers, but he came out with this about 9 months
ago and it is all over the web, in the latest photography magazines.
..........and that is all he makes, it is called the "Lens
Baby".
Craig invented the Lensbabies Flexible Lens Mounting System (Patent
Pending) in an effort to replace his Holga™ film camera with its
digital equivalent. After getting enthusiastic feedback from fellow
photographers longing to create unique imagery for their clients, Craig
decided to make Lensbabies available to everyone.
http://www.lensbabies.com/
Monday, July 11, 2005
Help needed Store chains in your area and in the United States
Re: [spiers] Help needed Store chains in your area and in the United States
In a message dated 7/11/05 4:49:49 PM, Splash10@aol.com writes:
<< Hello, Can you help me to find the names of store chains for pet stores in
the United States? I am particularly interested in the smaller chains, 5 to
15
to 35 or so stores in the chain. (Smaller than Petco and PetSmart.) I have
used the Yellow Pages and done other searches online and only a few come up.
Is there a directory somewhere that would identify the chains?
***Check google.com, the library, and I believe tehre is a mag clled CHAIN
STORE AGE***
I have worked with buyer/distributors who successfully sell our products
mostly in their own chain stores in several states. We also sell at a few
independent chains in the U.S. Our beautiful products are really doing well.
We
have an excellent line of items and would like to branch out, but I am in
need of
assistance. I am aware of the trade organization such as the manufacturers
association and so I went there and bought boothes, and attended their trade
shows. At such an event, you may learn of a store by talking to people.
***Why not ask your retail customers the names of their favorite reps?***
What I am seeking is a resource that would give me the names of the store
chains in Florida, or New York, and so on in other states, so I can contact
the
stores directly and tell them about our products, sales volume, pricing
discounts, etc.
All I need are the names and I can research the rest.
If anyone knows the names of any stores that carry pet products, for example
like a Pets Plus, who have any chains in your area, I would be grateful to
hear. You can write me directly at splash10@aol.com. I would be happy to
send
you a gift of something special for your pet to thank you. ;-D >>
***I guess bribery is allowed on this list... and this does not look like a
violation of the "offer to sell" policy...so ok.***
John
Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
Re: [spiers] Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
In a message dated 7/11/05 10:52:11 AM, akmin2000@yahoo.com writes:
<< Does anyone have experience bringing US products to
market in China? If so, do you have any insight on
the what the process is to get your products in the
right distribution channels?
***Yes, I have sold fruit into China, but most of my experience is in buying
from the Chinese. The key as always is to be the best source for the item in
particular that you represent.***
Can someone map out what the process is and for
example, what it would take to get your products in
the retail stores like CarreFour in Shanghai?
***CArrefour is a French version of Walmart, and in fact I think they are #2
retailer worldwide behind Walmart... my argument would be, like walmart, we
literaly have no business trying to serve such a huge customer... we don't have
the economies of scale in manufacturing, in distribution and finance... on the
other had, yes China is selling more and more to USA, and USA sales to China
are growiing as well... why not sell USA products in an are you can provide a
value... on this website is a .pdf copy of the textbook I wrote...downlaod it
and review chapter 8 for a gameplan of exporting at the smal biz level...***
If you have any insight you could share, it would be
much appreciated. The products are for US health and
beauty goods.
***A wide open market at teh small biz level...***
JOhn
need help
Hi John,
This is Inna, your former student. I am looking for the fulfillment house. What
is the name of the fulfillment house in Sparks, Nevada that you referring in
your book?
Thank you very much for your help.
Inna
designers and percentages
Re: [spiers] When working with designer how do you establish a percentage on a product.
>
>
> << I am a student of your from years ago............I have your book,
> I also
> have a successful
>
> online business.Â
>
> ***Seriously, how do you define success... and everyone is keen on
> how to
> make the internet pay...any tips?***
I would define successful in that we make about 360,000 gross a year
with myself and my partner, bought a view home in Seattle in the last 9
months, do this full time and have a family member ship for us part
time. My partner and I started making adapters for the Kodak DC265
digital camera about 5 years ago after a friend bought a camera and
could not attach lenses or filters to the camera. We came up with a
prototype, took a photo and ask if anyone would be interested on a
large camera forum - they were very interested. So we hired a
machinist locally here in Seattle and put up a website. The key was we
had a unique item that we would sell around - meaning we added
filters, lenses, basic camera accessories as our customers wanted to
buy products all in one place.
It was tough going in the beginning because we had lots of customers
but did not have any credit, (we were artists and poor) at least not
enough to take credit cards online..........so we did PayPal and checks
for several years, now we are able to take credit cards from all over
the world.
We do not pay any advertising costs, we have no ads on our
website..............all our customers are by word of mouth due to
camera forums. We did not think this up or plan it, it just happened
this way..........
It has become much more competitive in the past 2 years, but have been
able to stay ahead of the competition by improving the product and
staying in a field where customers are more and more discerning in what
goes on their $800.00 cameras - our customers are 99.9% male, newbies
and more professional camera types.
Since the adapter is very simple in design, we have been focusing on
the finishes, matching them to the camera bodies, we are trying to
branch out into other camera related products we see missing in the
market. Since we already have a customer base we can introduce new
items or have old customers try a new prototype and tell us what they
think.
So I would say find a niche market in an area you already have an
interest in - forums are an excellent place to find people complaining
about how things don't work or what they would like to see made.
Improve products that already exist, or use materials from one field of
interest and apply them to an unrelated area. We have an old customer
who is a dentist who is using a new tiny digital camera to take
pictures of his patients teeth at $200.00 rather than the old equipment
usually used by dentists at $800.00. He has had so many dentist
friends say can you set me up? I am not sure what to buy and how to
take the pictures. So he quit is job and sells packages and gives
seminars to other dentists.........all over the US.
One of the latest success stories in our area of digital photography is
a guy who made a lens that makes a photo have the effect of Vaseline on
the glass, though he has improved it by allowing the user to move the
center or sweet spot to anywhere in the frame. Years ago this was all
the rage with photographers, but he came out with this about 9 months
ago and it is all over the web, in the latest photography magazines.
..........and that is all he makes, it is called the "Lens
Baby".
Craig invented the Lensbabies Flexible Lens Mounting System (Patent
Pending) in an effort to replace his Holgaâ„¢ film camera with its
digital equivalent. After getting enthusiastic feedback from fellow
photographers longing to create unique imagery for their clients, Craig
decided to make Lensbabies available to everyone.
http://www.lensbabies.com/
>
> >>
> ***This is in essence a royalty, the more you sell the more he
> makes...Â
> check the trade journals., do a search on infotrak in the library to
> find the
> royalty rate paid in your field... check the USPTO.gov and ask
> designers of
> similar items what they would expect o get paid...also, consider
> having the
> designer own any patetns, etc on this item, and he licenses you...
> the idea being you
> get teh custoemrs, the designer has to worry about any legal
> liability on IP
> infringement...make sure the indians agree to sell your product all
> over the
> world and they pay YOU a royalty too!***
Thank you for your suggestions we will look into the rate paid in our
field.
I thought you said patents were not the way to go, they are very
expensive, and in the camera field it moves so quickly anyone can
upgrade a product.........but................. I see that the
"Lensbaby" guy in the story above mentions "patent pending"............
Right now our adapters are made in the US, anything we design and have
our Indian vendor make they will make exclusively for us at .20 extra a
part, I don"t think it would behoove us to let them sell to our
competitors, the way we make money now it to make the product and sell
retail. If we are able to pull off this new product we were hoping to
become a wholesaler of the specialty item in the US and Overseas.
I am not sure what you mean by "the designer has to worry about any
legal liability on IP infringements" I don't know what IP
is..............
Best regards, Susan
designers and percentages
Re: [spiers] When working with designer how do you establish a percentage on a product.
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:09:06 AM, crowboy@earthlink.net writes:
<< I am a student of your from years ago............I have your book, I also
have a successful
online business.
***Seriously, how do you define success... and everyone is keen on how to
make the internet pay...any tips?***
We are designing a new product that is much more complicated than our
prior ones - and will require us to hire an engineer.
***Think "royalty" basis...****
I know you do not like hiring people who are friends but this person is
qualified and we
know what we want, and what our customers want.................
***Nay friends are fine, it is asking friends and relatives what they think
of your product, instead of asking customers, is what I caution against.***
My question is this: My partner and I have the product pretty much designed,
it is made
up of 7 parts all of which we are having made in India by a vendor we have a
very good
relationship with. We want our friend to work the parts into Cad drawings,
design with us
all the details, maybe help with packaging. We can not afford to pay
upfront, what would
you say is a reasonable percent of the profits of each sale would go to him
to pay for his
time? Since he has not done freelance work before he can not give us a
quote...............
>>
***This is in essence a royalty, the more you sell the more he makes...
check the trade journals., do a search on infotrak in the library to find the
royalty rate paid in your field... check the USPTO.gov and ask designers of
similar items what they would expect o get paid...also, consider having the
designer own any patetns, etc on this item, and he licenses you... the idea
being you
get teh custoemrs, the designer has to worry about any legal liability on IP
infringement...make sure the indians agree to sell your product all over the
world and they pay YOU a royalty too!***
John
South Africa
Re: [spiers] South Africa
In a message dated 7/9/05 8:09:30 AM, fhgu@netzero.net writes:
<< I am wondering if one should be careful/concern with when importing
products that are produced in South Africa. Even if this product has the most
unique
design and characters.
I remember in the 80's here in Seattle, Westlake square in downtown was using
brick pavement produced in South Africa. When the public found out, the
person who ordered the bricks got fired and the pavement had to be
re-done.......though it was a public project.
***that probably had more to do with people hoping to sell something to the
city twice than anything else...***
For private sector, in these day and age, is there anything that should be
concern with when importing from South Africa? How does the general public in US
view on South African products?
***Well, if your customers order the goods, and you have signed purchase
orders, they must be happy... I never know what the public thinks, nobody
does...
we obviate the need to know by getting orders in advance... I love reading
the stock summary when the say the "DOW was down 45 points today as investors
engaged in profit-taking"... how could they possible know what was on the minds
of millions of investors...? Anyway, I believe we are happy for South
Africans right now...***
John
Help needed Store chains in your area and in the United States
Hello, Can you help me to find the names of store chains for pet stores in
the United States? I am particularly interested in the smaller chains, 5 to 15
to 35 or so stores in the chain. (Smaller than Petco and PetSmart.) I have
used the Yellow Pages and done other searches online and only a few come up.
Is there a directory somewhere that would identify the chains?
Is there a resource that would let me know the contact information for the
pet product buyers, who buy for the chain stores?
I have worked with buyer/distributors who successfully sell our products
mostly in their own chain stores in several states. We also sell at a few
independent chains in the U.S. Our beautiful products are really doing well.
We
have an excellent line of items and would like to branch out, but I am in need
of
assistance. I am aware of the trade organization such as the manufacturers
association and so I went there and bought boothes, and attended their trade
shows. At such an event, you may learn of a store by talking to people.
What I am seeking is a resource that would give me the names of the store
chains in Florida, or New York, and so on in other states, so I can contact the
stores directly and tell them about our products, sales volume, pricing
discounts, etc.
All I need are the names and I can research the rest.
If anyone knows the names of any stores that carry pet products, for example
like a Pets Plus, who have any chains in your area, I would be grateful to
hear. You can write me directly at splash10@aol.com. I would be happy to send
you a gift of something special for your pet to thank you. ;-D
Thanks so much and I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Sherry
Sunday, July 10, 2005
Distribution channels for US products in Shanghai
Does anyone have experience bringing US products to
market in China? If so, do you have any insight on
the what the process is to get your products in the
right distribution channels?
Can someone map out what the process is and for
example, what it would take to get your products in
the retail stores like CarreFour in Shanghai?
If you have any insight you could share, it would be
much appreciated. The products are for US health and
beauty goods.
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