John,
Thank you for being so patient with my questions last class.Here is yet another one: Is this hypothesis a good one to test?I have found 130 specialty suppliers of higher end (product), any of whom could be argued to be best in the world.From those 130 I have discovered 5 make their (product) in a special way. It's with an open type of (ingredient) that was used prior to 1970.These 5 are the only makers who still make their (product) this way and it is loved by some enthusiasts.I was going to contact all 130 (using your methods) but especially focus on the 5 traditional makers and get a MOQ from one of those 5. Then see if in Japanand Korea (Top 2 export markets now) there is interest in this special type of (product).Is this correct?Thank you for such a great class. It really has been wonderful.--LA
Sunday, May 31, 2015
How Many Suppliers to Recruit?
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Tuesday, January 21, 2014
Calling All Freight Forwarders
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Monday, December 12, 2016
Export Food - Repping Supplier Approach - LCL MOQ FOB Part 2
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Tuesday, April 1, 2014
Exporting Food and Beverage Business Start-up
LCL = Less than Container Load
FCL Full Container Load
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Friday, December 2, 2016
LCL MOQ FOB Partial Colloquy
Hi John,Thanks for another fantastic session this Tuesday. I have mailed out the initial letter and wanted to be prepared just incase she calls me before our scheduled time this Tuesday. I have started a different email thread since we are on the next phase and also makes it easier.So the "Answer matrix" from previous email ( At the end of this email & Thanks for that! ) is an initial Introduction of myself & a proposal on how we can mutually benefit by doing business together. Assuming she's interested, she'll either start getting into specificity then and there
OR will want to think about it and get back to me
OR will ask me on how I want to proceed [ I'm assuming you'll say "Right Now over the phone" 🙂 ]. Was hoping me you can give me some guidelines on the following details which I think will be fundamental to our discussions and If there's something else you think might come up in the discussion and is important, please let me knowMOQWill the owner provide this?. If I have to come up with MOQ, I have absolutely no idea on what would be the ideal "smallest rational possible" quantity or how to go about finding that out.
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Sunday, November 8, 2015
What Buyers Want
Novelty refers to people's strong desire to try out new products and new tastes. "Every time distributors came for replenishments, they would ask whether we have any new products, new varieties and new tastes to offer," said Deng. "Distributors face the end-users and their expectation for new products is led by end-users. Since consumers are always looking for new varieties, distributors are also more than happy to give new varieties a try," he said.
"Although health is the prevailing trend, we are very cautious about food that claims to be organic. Due to frequent reports of fake organic food, consumers have little confidence in organic food. Moreover, the price of imported organic food is very high, often several times more expensive than similar local varieties. Lack of demand means few end-users."
Yin Tai Hang's current distribution system has wholesalers as its mainstay. Its clients include small and medium-sized supermarkets, individually-owned small businesses, restaurants and online stores. In principle, the distributors also work on a cash and carry basis to reduce liquidity pressure.Deng Zhiyong frankly admitted that the biggest difference between dealing in imported food and local products lies in the return of goods. Local products basically have return guarantees, but this is not the case with imported food because tariffs are involved. A company has to be cautious when choosing products and suppliers.
Yin Tai Hang mainly deals in the import of prepared foods and its cooperation with Hong Kong companies mainly centres on condiments, including leading Hong Kong brands like Amoy, Lee Kum Kee and Yummy House. According to Deng Zhiyong, these Hong Kong brands usually market their products on the mainland in two ways: On the one hand, they cooperate with the key accounts and deal with them directly. On the other hand, they choose suitable distributors and deal with them on a cash basis by supplying goods to them at ex-factory price.
On the issue of contacting and choosing suppliers and products, Deng Zhiyong said Yin Tai Hang mainly relies on food fairs and market observation to collect information on suppliers. After collecting the information and making initial contact, it will decide whether a supplier is a suitable partner for cooperation based on five considerations: First, it will make a net search to find out how the products of that brand are selling locally. Second, it will try to find out the reputation of that brand on the mainland (Yin Tai Hang is inclined to choose brands of considerable fame). Third, give the products a try to see what they taste like and judge according to its experience whether they are suitable for the mainland market. Fourth, understand the price situation and compare the suppliers' price with the market price for similar products to judge whether there is sufficient profit margin. Fifth, understand the supplying channel to ensure the stability of supplies.
As a distribution agent familiar with the mainland market, Yin Tai Hang is mainly responsible for selling goods but will also make proposals to suppliers on marketing and promotion based on its own experience, including conducting suitable brand publicity and printing relevant product catalogues and pamphlets for distribution to clients.
Suppliers are mainly responsible for handling the documentation required for the marketing of relevant products on the mainland, customs clearance procedures (this may be entrusted to relevant service providers), delivery and replenishment of goods,
and brand and product marketing and promotion. "We have come across some good products with great marketing potential, but their suppliers lacked the motivation to get to know the mainland market themselves and wanted to leave everything to their agents, which gave us the impression that they lacked long-term commitment in expanding the mainland market," said Deng.
"In my view, cooperation is necessary to win the market. Doing business is like raising a kid, not raising pigs. You have to come to see the mainland market to fully understand this market and this is the only way to gain consensus for marketing and future development," he said.
"Suppliers must have a clear system for the management of distributors. Without a proper system, chaotic management will result in a chaotic market," said Deng. "A good supplier will always have a clearly-defined system that covers two respects: First its distributors must have clearly-defined regional dealerships. This will prevent competitive pricing among distributors, which will disrupt market order. Second, concessions to and protection of the interests of distributors. Suppliers usually have requirements on the amount of goods ordered by distributors and those with big orders are eligible for concessions. Suppliers cannot set targets for orders at random and must have a full understanding of the market. They cannot compel distributors to hold large stocks or frequently change distributors. They also must deliver and replenish supplies in a timely manner." Suppliers and distributors must work closely together to achieve win-win results.
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Sunday, September 1, 2013
MOQ FOB and Packaging
Effective packaging is the key to avoiding some LCL risks. Packaging requirements exceed even those of LTL, because the cargo will not only be packed with other shippers' goods, but will be subject to the rigors of sea transport.I use Uline at uline.com for their comprehensive catalog, multi-locations and excellent service. I also admire them for taking space in one of their catalog editions to trash the predatory capitalism that beggared one of their customers, the grand old business called Harry & David.
But aside form admiration, when making MOQ FOB offers, as the offer itself displays a professionalism inasmuch as the offer is simple and clear, this can be extended to the export packaging itself. And the packaging, which may end up showing at retail, can be plastered with your advertising. Remember to have your moqfob url, and U S A on the packaging. Other buyers will find you.
While someone may have a steady business of 20' container loads of flax seed, and MOQ FOB may be for a mere 30 gallon drum, which facilitates many unimaginable uses being tested overseas.

There is a maxim in retail: "Stack 'em high, watch 'em fly." Wine exporters may find the MOQ FOB best offered in this little number, approved as export packaging.

Shipping sugar cane, chopped fresh in the field? It telescopes!

Your energy bars may be giveaways for banks trying to attract the Bulgarian Yuppie, and packed in this clever number goes from your warehouse to the Sophia Marathon finish line air or surface.

Wait wait... there is more... you need assurance the goods are handled well in transit? Uline has you covered:
Worried about humidity? Check these out... they don't prevent humidity, but if you've been promised enviro-controls, this will prove if it's been otherwise...
Or is heat the issue?

or is it freezing?

if it is just a matter of keeping it dry, why then...

Sure these things cost, but the point of MOQ FOB is to discover markets, not turn a profit. There are no economies of scale in this, but it is frustrating to have to try again for poor packaging or some such. Just make sure you add the cost into your MOQ FOB. The customer pays for everything.
Get advice on packaging as part of your MOQ FOB.
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Friday, May 1, 2015
Your Food Export Business Development
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Wednesday, April 1, 2015
LCL MOQ FOB Food Exports Start-up
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Sunday, January 17, 2016
LCL MOQ FOB HK
The $10 plus LCLMOQ FOB (which is nothing new) promotion also suggests excess production and inventory. Ignore the products upon which small minimums and cool design (to you) are offered. These were called forth during bubble economy. There will be no good market, except in dollar stores. You'll buy these for $2 and sell them for 20 cents. Don't do it.
I cannot tell you how many times I say "don't do it" people do it, and then come back and say "Gee, it did not work out." Your first loss is the best one.
This promotion screams overcapacity, a deflationary event. While the suppliers will urge you to take their problems off their hands, get past that to your designs produced. These are really most welcome.
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Saturday, November 19, 2016
Start-up Requires No Funding
The risky part is not for those who assign a bit of ex nihilo credit tally to a given start-up, but to those who sign the slave papers in return for the granting of ex nihilo credit. Now that is risky. You might end up like a college graduate today, huge debt and unemployed. No need to do that when starting up, for a proper start-up takes no money or credit to speak of.
The banks promote the idea of "risk taking" by entrepreneurs as a means to unload the unlimited ex nihilo credit, the granting of which is no risk to them.
We have at least one generation that has been trained to lose:
get enough funding to live off of for a year or two, and blow through it... who cares if anything succeeds, cuz you get to play "business" for a year or two... and who knows, great resumes have serial start-up experience. Those days are over, but the idea is embedded in a generation core curriculum at the universities. (And as Drucker said you can tell when information is obsolete, the universities make it core curriculum.)
If you are serious about start-up, you must have a business plan that moves forward without funding. If you are saying "I just need funding" then you are deluding yourself. If you are saying "I just need customers" you are at least assessing the problem correctly.
Start-up is about creating customers and innovating in the redeployment of excess capacity (or lessor demand capacity) to the end of solutions to problems. (And as Drucker says, there is no solution that cannot be imporoved upon.)
It takes no money to conceive of the solution.
You must speak to the customer at some point, why not first? It takes no money to do so. And you walk away from this phase with ideas and contacts, with which you begin to fill your rolodex and files. And this is critical, to begin to build your "world trade organization" that is the people you've met, with whom your synergies will produce more than otherwise possible.
It takes no money to talk to your customers.
You have no credibility as a start up, so you borrow authority from target customers... talk to them first... do they say yours is a good idea and does not otherwise exist?
Then you begin to work on the design, which the best is on a royalty basis. Again, done right, no money up front. And as to design, you work only to achieve "enough design" to generate enough orders to cover the suppliers minimum order requirement. Repeat this mantra: customer is the most important thing in business, getting the design right is the hardest. But even with this in mind, people fail by working way too hard on the design. Learn from Steve Jobs.
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_I |
It takes no money to gather to get this far.
Please note what "snowballs" here is your solution with customer feedback packed around it. It is what is rolling and why all the other people you contact stick to it getting bigger and ever more momentum (and value). Each door is opened because of the work getting the previous door opened. You have not made any money yet, but you haven't spent any either.
Now, you propose importing or exporting (or both?) Neither importing nor exporting is a business. They are steps in business. In essence, authentic international trade is simply accessing optimal excess production capacity to the end of production. Business is buying and selling, not making. The world is full of production that created no demand. We do not want to join the 80% of start-ups that fail.
Customers (there is that word again) call forth the product. We are the impresarios who gather the players necessary to respond to that call. Yes, we suggested the solution, but the customers power the rationale for all the players you collect to act. (And I might add, dealing with very talented people each in his own narrow field is a privilege and often breathtaking. It is also tempering, you just know not to waste these peoples time, you know you must do your best work. Re: best work, see below.)
With importing, you are moving from general (the domestic market) to specific, the best supplier in the world. In exporting, you are moving from specific to general, the best supplier in the world, to any buyer worldwide. With either, you are discovering markets no one else considered, directions informed with data no one else has created and studied.
This costs you nothing, and you cannot buy it anywhere, it is not for sale. It is free.
For specialty, the best source is rarely, if ever, the cheapest. Usually it is more expensive. We are not achieving perfection in initial product design, any more than Apple's first product was perfect. We are achieving milestone #3, enough orders to cover the supplier's minimum order requirement, in a workable amount of time, profitably. Again, learn from Steve Jobs.
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What you are offering is new market study at no cost to the supplier. Your compensation comes only from customers you create. Everyone involved gets something for nothing, and you get paid by customers (your markup on all the discovered costs) if you get the design right. Never promise anything more than to report back on a test. No one needs anything more, expects anything more, nor would believe you if you promised anything more.
You form a hypothesis and shift from passion/joy to science. You seek out valid and reliable information about the market, you search and learn the contours of a market no one else yet sees.
You may of may not pay for samples, but otherwise it does not cost you money to pay your dues. The less money you spend and the more time you research, the better off your start up. As the carpenters say, measure twice cut once.
Now, here is where people those with funding fail: since they did not start with the customer, they promise the supplier much in the way of flash and imagery but no customers (or worse, assumed customers). The wrong suppliers respond to that (or just plain scammers.) Just as these people begin "selling", things go bad fast. (Alibaba is the world center for failure match-up. Amazon and eBay is the medium upon which failure occurs.)
What we promise all of our associates is not a single order. What we promise is to test against samples the most informed hypothesis of whether there is enough customers collectively to cover the supplier's minimum production run in a workable amount of time, profitably.
Sound complicated? No, it is quite simple, and may take some unlearning to "get it." It is what the best suppliers expect. And so far it costs nothing to speak of.
That minimum production run requirement is specifically the LCL MOQ FOB: Less than container load, minimum order quantity, priced free on board country of origin port of lading. That is often merely a pallet load.
In importing we are the ones buying the lcl moq fob, in exporting, we are the ones selling the lcl moq fob.
And if we do achieve the initial goal of enough orders to cover the suppliers minimum in a workable amount of time, profitably, then we execute. And we are talking a min order qty of one maybe one pallet, no more than say $5000 worth. Do you really need a venture capitalist for this? Or a banker? Or even a rich uncle?
And if we do not achieve it, then what we have in hand is market feedback, what is wrong (shape, weight, color, size, package, material, speed, flavor?) with our product. Aren't you glad you only have samples, not a garage full? You can go back to your world trade association you built and fix the problem. And then go at the market again. These is no excuse for failure, or especially burn out.
You may fantasize some business in which you are paragraphed in the Wall Street Journal. Sure, if you want, but both Apple and Vandor started the same way. Vandor never got above $3 million in sales (at least when I was managing it) and you've never heard of it. The first company I was working for was at that time the same size as NIKE, tiny. Phil Knight knew no bounds. But the owners of all had all of their material wants met by the business. Business is about lifestyle, not accumulation, another conept the last two generations need to learn.
And start-up is not about funding. Anyone investing more than $900 or ninety hours before discovering whether they have enough orders from customers to cover the suppliers minimum order requirement in a workable amount of time, profitably is wasting time and money. I am often pointing out where people are wasting either in their pursuits.
Now as simple as this is, there is many a slip twixt the cup and the lip. I came of age when it was no problem to walk down a street and see a "help wanted" sign in the window of an import-export company and after two years of learning every part of the business, be travelling the world as a buyer. Ex nihilo cedit ended all that for now, but the ex nihilo credit regime is over. Thirty years ago I could see this de facto apprenticeship program ending, so I began to lecture at colleges and wrote a book to fill-in the gap formed when getting a job and working your way up ended.
Those were boom years, and the damage is done during the boom years. Now it is the bust, where the losses are laid on the living (the rich take the profits, the poor take the losses) and the work of rebuilding a natural, authentic economy is at hand.
Pro sports bore me. I spend the time most people devote to pro sports teaching, writing and lecturing. I find it fun and fascinating. And writing is how I get paid for time spent thinking. The rest of the time I spend working on my own business. Lifestyle, not accumulation.
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Wednesday, January 18, 2017
Export Food Small Business Start-up
Someone has to present what really happens in small business international trade.
This article is an example, and start out with a claim that is rather wrong.
While food giants such as P&G, Nestle and Unilever have long operated with a global footprint, it’s only recently that small- to mid-sized companies have been able to effectively tackle these markets.Small businesses have been exporting food from the United States all along, nothing has changed in recent years, the tools tactics and attitude necessary have been there all along. Yet the story will tell us about a "pioneer" in this field.
One of those food retail pioneers is Kontos Foods, a mid-sized New Jersey-based manufacturer and distributor of traditional artisan breads and Mediterranean specialty foods. A little over three years ago Kontos began a vigorous overseas expansion program, and now ships its products globally, to a wide range of locations, including Singapore, Indonesia, the Caribbean, Panama, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, and Dubai.I've never heard of Kontos Foods, and I am sure they are a fine company. But what bothers me with these perennial articles telling us about "pioneers" is they never mention cost/benefit... I can get sales into all of those countries pretty quick too... at a cost. The trick is to have sales and maintain a profit, at least as good as what you would have if you expanded domestically. If Kontos is New Jersey based, then export orders ought to be no more difficult (or costly to acquire) and every bit as profitable as a domestic sale. And alongside testing the overseas market, one would be obliged to test expanding domestically to compare with the overseas opportunities.
Now, recall the opening false claim that biggies like Nestle and Unilever were the only possible players before. And who is making this claim?
Before Kontos, I worked at Unilever and my colleague, Kontos Foods’ Global Sales Director Doug Werts, is formerly of Nestle. Combined, we’ve lived and worked in different markets around the world, including the Netherlands, Brazil, and the U.K.So to help a small or mid-sized company break into export markets, the process is the same as for Unilever and Nestle? This is an internal contradiction: "nothing has changed, things are now different."
At Unilever, for instance, I spent significant time and resources building market share in Europe and South America. Those experiences, along with our current Kontos research about consumer shopping habits, provided us with the deep consumer insight we needed to target the right products and packaging to shoppers.
Now notice the valentine-to-self slipped in there, "my experience and my time spent on the Kontos dime travelling gives ME deep consumer insights." Bull$#!+. Since valid and reliable market information costs tens of millions, any other "experience or insight" is mere anecdote, and the plural of anecdote is not science. There is a way to test market with spending tens of millions, and getting solid results. It is search and learn, a process where you discover customers not otherwise discoverable. But the tool tactic and attitude is utterly contrary to all of the elements this article proffers. In short:
1. The tool - LCL MOQ FOB ... if you have specialty, overseas buyers are looking to test this in their market. They want and need that smallest order rational, not the largest order possible. They want a pallet load to test, not a 40' container. It is FOB because you will be prepaid before anything rolls out of your warehouse destined for overseas.
2. The tactic: Your export offer is one-size fits the entire world. You ship overseas what you ship domestically. All "localization" for the export market is up to the importer overseas. No good deed goes unpunished, so you never help your buyer by doing localization. Recall we are talking a one pallet load shipment, and as a tst possibly several of these in sequence. Why would you foot the cost of "localization" for a test order, in which most test will come up nil? Don' worry, your importer overseas knows how to localize on the spot if necessary. I am also an importer, and have had to "localize' many shipments on the spot in which customs has found fault. it's a small shipment, no sweat.
3. The attitude: I came here to sell, why are you here? At the trade shows, every buyer ought to place an order for your LCL MOQ FOB. If not, why not? If the person you are speaking to is not a buyer, end the conversation and move on to a buyer. If the buyer says no to your one-size-fits-all worldwide offer, then find out why not. Start a matrix of objections to see if any changes wold be worthwhile in your offer. This is science, something sorely lacking among those who go to trade shows happy to settle for "trade leads."
What exporting gets down to is a test of the product by the importer overseas to whom you sell. This article has a lot of moving parts, but bottom line is you find an importer overseas who wants to test your product. On the one hand all of the rigamarole laid out in this article nets no advantage, and on the other hand you can achieve the same results with none of the rigamarole.
Then on this this:
The problem, however, is that overseas research isn’t cheap: Attending one trade show could cost upwards of $15,000-$20,000. There are nonprofit and government programs to help assist with companies as a means of trying to boost overseas trade. We found FoodExport NorthEast, a non-profit organization that supports international commerce. The organization is designed to help American food and beverage manufacturers attendforeign trade shows, connect with potential customers and learn about consumer trends.Sigh. It could cost that much, but you can achieve the same results at a fraction of the cost. Here is the funny thing, it could cost that much if you take the help those orgs offer, because their help is in the form of rebating half your costs if you do things their way, which "could cost upwards of $15 -20K..."
OK, so you spend $15,000 on a trade show and get $7500 back. And their way is not the optimal way. And I can do an optimal version the same thing all in for about $5000. Now what kind of leverage is it when you net net you spent too much to do largely the wrong thing?
With the assistance of FoodExport, we started hitting the global trade-show circuit. They provide exploratory tours to help retailers discover whether a particular market is right for them. These tours offer crucial learning time, where retailers, manufacturers and distributors can quickly learn which regions are worth pursuing. When you’re on one of these tours, I recommend maximizing every minute of your research gathering.Any any Chinese food importer would already know this. Why not just find a competent Chinese importer and have them test your product and provide feedback? If and when something developes, then you might go visit China. All this travel and time is expensive.
For instance, while in Shanghai for a trade show tour, I learned that people in Northern China prefer bread much more so than their southern countrymen. This helped steer Kontos’ sales efforts to the correct part of the country, saving time and money.
The international export business is on an upward trajectory. If you plan to join in on an overseas expansion program, gather an experienced team, do your homework and get your passport ready. People are now enjoying Kontos flatbread in Bahrain, Singapore, South Korea, Saudi Arabia and Dubai. Who would have dreamed that three years ago?As I started out this post asking, where is the cost benefit, I am pretty sure Kontos has gone well into the hole getting those export orders. The question is when, if ever, it will proven to have been profitable. For overseas expansion, you need no more talent than a good Freight Forwarder and a solid importer, who may be discovered without ever leaving your office.
Because these articles claiming "small businesses can export just like Nestle now" have been coming out the last 40 years, I offer a corrective course. No nonsense, the tool, tactic and attitude to find export business no more difficult and every bit as profitable, from the first sale and onward. You may read about the course here, and enroll now and pay later at the same site.
This work can be done either as a proprietor producing food, or an agent representing a food producer.
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