Saturday, January 14, 2006

Wall Street Bonus Review

Folks,

An interesting report from one in the trenches...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/corrigan/corrigan82.html

John Spiers
www.johnspiers.com


Questions

Prod Idea... Question regarding book, live /online class in SoCal

Jennifer,

I shouldn't be so mercenary, but did you come up with any good product
ideas while working with the baby overload? I sure did, but not my
field... (I adapted my utility room sink to accommodate a changing
table and rigged a small shower... I had the villains stripped, hosed
down, redressed and back to tormenting the cat in eight seconds flat...
my wife was appalled, but never a problem with diaper rash.)

But to your questions... I am at San Diego SDSU Saturday 1/21 from 9-5
call 619/594-5132 or www.neverstoplearning.NET and my book is at the
SDSU bookstore on campus... or various sources you c an link to at
http://www.johnspiers.com/Write.html

And thanks for asking...

John

On Friday, January 13, 2006, at 10:56 PM, jennifer lee wrote:

> Am a former online student, but I never was able to get involved with
> the class beyond reading the notes, due to babycare overload, etc. But
> now I'm interested in pursuing the import export idea again --
> specifically now that we live in London, but I speak Mandarin Chinese
> (my ancestry), and family bases in SHanghai and Taipei, and am
> currently visiting family Orange County, California. Do you know of
> any import-export live classes in the LA-OC area? Is your class still
> offered online? I thought I might try to do some research and take in
> a class (preferably live), while I'm still in the US, before I go back
> to Europe....Thanks for any ideas as to how to progress. Also, any
> ideas on how I can get your book?
>
John Spiers
www.johnspiers.com


Friday, January 13, 2006

Questions

Question regarding book, live /online class in SoCal

Hi John,
Am a former online student, but I never was able to get involved with the
class beyond reading the notes, due to babycare overload, etc. But now I'm
interested in pursuing the import export idea again -- specifically now that we
live in London, but I speak Mandarin Chinese (my ancestry), and family bases in
SHanghai and Taipei, and am currently visiting family Orange County, California.
Do you know of any import-export live classes in the LA-OC area? Is your class
still offered online? I thought I might try to do some research and take in a
class (preferably live), while I'm still in the US, before I go back to
Europe....Thanks for any ideas as to how to progress. Also, any ideas on how I
can get your book?
Best, Jennifer Lee Sims

John Spiers wrote:

> My product line concept only really makes sense south of the equator ...

Is this a globe or maps reoriented with australia up-over instead of down-under?
I saw those
years ago in usa trade shows... kinda funny to see maps and globes reoriented
upside down (to
our view) and first see australia as you view the media. Of course the names
are turned upside
down too. Actually I think they sold well in usa due to affection for australia
and simply the
interesting aspect as to just how do we figure north america is up on a globe
and australia is
down. Pure convention... just how do we figure north is up?

So do you think I should propose the product concept to the manufacturer now
> and then that way they may be willing to pay for the samples? I'd prefer
> to get the samples and get orders from my importer customers before going to
> the manufacturer with my product line but then that means I have to pay for
> the samples?

At this point, start by getting orders from the retailers, and when you have
enough to cover the
suppliers minimum, ask those very retailers for the names of importers they
commonly buy
from... then you contact those importers and match them with your supplier...
not ideal..but
probably best under the circumstances...

John


Thursday, January 12, 2006

Good link Oil China India

Folks,

Sorry, that last email had a bum link to the article..try this...

http://tinyurl.com/8pn2p

John


Oil China India

Interesting article




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Tuesday, January 10, 2006

furnishings industry questions

Re: [spiers] furnishings industry questions


Hi Mary Kay,

Digital movies are easy to make these days with a digital camera like a
Canon S2, with great sound, then you would just take your laptop -
this would also work well if you had a booth at a Garden show, to show
the fountain in different locations.

Just an idea, Susan


On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:18 PM, John Spiers wrote:

> Slight correction...not "I take the samples to the same retailers and
> others to get orders
> sufficient to fill supplier minimums." but "I take the samples to
> the same retailers and get
> the names of the very best independent sales representatives for this
> kind of product."
>
> With the names of the best reps, and buyers ready to buy, you then
> pose the promotion
> problems to the reps, the professionals who do this kind of work.Â
> they'll have the best
> advice...
>
> As to #2 below... that www.surtex.com site mentioned yesterday has
> interctive access to
> hundreds of designers and talent agents...perhaps you could poll
> them...
>
> John
>
> > I have developed a unique "high-design" water fountain that
> retailers told
> > me was a great idea that their customers would buy. Two questions:
> >
> > 1. Samples: I now have samples. Under the Spiers model, I take
> the
> > samples to the same retailers and others to get orders sufficient
> to fill
> > supplier minimums. However, my fountains are difficult to
> transport due to
> > size and location of the retailers. Only a few retailers are
> local. This
> > must be a problem common in the furnishings industry. Consider
> armoires.
> > To those of you with furnishings (or other large item) experience,
> how do
> > you deal with it? I've considered making a small scale model.Â
> However this
> > requires duplicate tooling (molds) and the pumps are unavailable to
> > replicate the water flow. The product does show best live vs.
> photographed.
> >
> > 2. Design commission: Compensation to the designer may change.Â
> Does
> > anyone know the common range of commissions for "lesser known"
> furniture
> > designers? I've been unable to sleuth it out in the trade journals.
> >
> > Thanks much. By the way, I've been enjoying the saga of the basic
> cell
> > phone search.
> >
> > Mary Kay


furnishings industry questions

Re: [spiers] furnishings industry questions

Slight correction...not "I take the samples to the same retailers and others to
get orders
sufficient to fill supplier minimums." but "I take the samples to the same
retailers and get
the names of the very best independent sales representatives for this kind of
product."

With the names of the best reps, and buyers ready to buy, you then pose the
promotion
problems to the reps, the professionals who do this kind of work. they'll have
the best
advice...

As to #2 below... that www.surtex.com site mentioned yesterday has interctive
access to
hundreds of designers and talent agents...perhaps you could poll them...

John

> I have developed a unique "high-design" water fountain that retailers told
> me was a great idea that their customers would buy. Two questions:
>
> 1. Samples: I now have samples. Under the Spiers model, I take the
> samples to the same retailers and others to get orders sufficient to fill
> supplier minimums. However, my fountains are difficult to transport due to
> size and location of the retailers. Only a few retailers are local. This
> must be a problem common in the furnishings industry. Consider armoires.
> To those of you with furnishings (or other large item) experience, how do
> you deal with it? I've considered making a small scale model. However this
> requires duplicate tooling (molds) and the pumps are unavailable to
> replicate the water flow. The product does show best live vs. photographed.
>
> 2. Design commission: Compensation to the designer may change. Does
> anyone know the common range of commissions for "lesser known" furniture
> designers? I've been unable to sleuth it out in the trade journals.
>
> Thanks much. By the way, I've been enjoying the saga of the basic cell
> phone search.
>
> Mary Kay


furnishings industry questions

John and all,
I have developed a unique "high-design" water fountain that retailers told
me was a great idea that their customers would buy. Two questions:

1. Samples: I now have samples. Under the Spiers model, I take the
samples to the same retailers and others to get orders sufficient to fill
supplier minimums. However, my fountains are difficult to transport due to
size and location of the retailers. Only a few retailers are local. This
must be a problem common in the furnishings industry. Consider armoires.
To those of you with furnishings (or other large item) experience, how do
you deal with it? I've considered making a small scale model. However this
requires duplicate tooling (molds) and the pumps are unavailable to
replicate the water flow. The product does show best live vs. photographed.

2. Design commission: Compensation to the designer may change. Does
anyone know the common range of commissions for "lesser known" furniture
designers? I've been unable to sleuth it out in the trade journals.

Thanks much. By the way, I've been enjoying the saga of the basic cell
phone search.

Mary Kay


Questions

RE: [spiers] Re: Questions


> My product line concept only really makes sense south of the equator ...

Is this a globe or maps reoriented with australia up-over instead of down-under?
I saw those
years ago in usa trade shows... kinda funny to see maps and globes reoriented
upside down (to
our view) and first see australia as you view the media. Of course the names
are turned upside
down too. Actually I think they sold well in usa due to affection for australia
and simply the
interesting aspect as to just how do we figure north america is up on a globe
and australia is
down. Pure convention... just how do we figure north is up?

So do you think I should propose the product concept to the manufacturer now
> and then that way they may be willing to pay for the samples? I'd prefer
> to get the samples and get orders from my importer customers before going to
> the manufacturer with my product line but then that means I have to pay for
> the samples?

At this point, start by getting orders from the retailers, and when you have
enough to cover the
suppliers minimum, ask those very retailers for the names of importers they
commonly buy
from... then you contact those importers and match them with your supplier...
not ideal..but
probably best under the circumstances...

John


Monday, January 9, 2006

Questions

RE: [spiers] Re: Questions

Understood.



My product line concept only really makes sense south of the equator so the
USA isn't really a market I'll be going after. It sure would make things
easier though.



So do you think I should propose the product concept to the manufacturer now
and then that way they may be willing to pay for the samples? I'd prefer
to get the samples and get orders from my importer customers before going to
the manufacturer with my product line but then that means I have to pay for
the samples?



I sure hope I'm not taking advantage of a good thing with all of my endless
questions for you.





Thanks,

John









_____

From: spiers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:spiers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
John Spiers
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 5:51 PM
To: spiers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spiers] Re: Questions



Orders are legally binding contracts, but conversation, even enthusiastic
conversation is not...
believe half of what you see and none of what you hear... get samples...get
orders...if you get
orders to cover minimums, then proceed... yes, orders from importers...

But I've got to say, I've sold lots to 3rd countries this way, but always as
part of what I was
importing into usa.. as a start, it seems a challenge... how come you are
not satarting this biz
importing into usa, for usa market?

John
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:26:23 -0000, "John" wrote
:

> Thanks again John!
>
> I've contacted about 5 Australian souvenir retail shops and they all
> thought my product line would sell extremely well (one even suggested
> I'd get rich from this). They all agreed that they would sell my
> product line in their store once it is available and they've seen
> samples.
>
> So...since my plan is to sell directly to Australian importers should
> I continue to get more "test" orders from small retailers or should I
> just skip ahead to my real customers which are the Australian
> importers?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
>
>
> --- In spiers@yahoogroups.com, "John Spiers" wrote:
> >
> > Simplify, test...
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:42:55 -0700, "John Teel" wrote :
> >
> > > 1.) Which order do you suggest I make first contact with
> retailers,
> > > importers, and the manufacturer? My plan is to contact about 10
> retailers
> > > to see if they would be interested enough to place an order once
> the
> > > products are available.
> >
> > ***Yes, always customers first... see what they say and then worry
> about hypotheticals.***
> >
> > > 2.) Any suggestion on what percent of revenue I should start
> > > negotiations with the manufacturer at?
> >
> > ***Whatever generates you about $250/hour for your time. We are
> wage slaves. But it is not
> > a matter of negotiation, it is a matter of they have a price and
> you tack on a percent. ***
> > >
> > > 3.) Would there be anything preventing me from buying and
> selling these
> > > products at the same time I'm getting shared revenue from the
> manufacturer?
> > > Maybe after I built up some capital from my shared revenue I
> might decide it
> > > is more profitable if I buy and sell the items.
> > >
> >
> > ***Nothing at all to prevent this..but first things first.
> Customers. then more customers.
> >
> > John


Trade Show For Designers

Folks,

I was recruiting a new designer today who mentioned she was heading to New York
this
Spring to a new show... http://www.surtex.com/ ... apparently the exhibitors
are DESIGNERS
and the buyers are manufacturers, importers etc... Those of you on the list who
are designers
may want to check this out...if anyone atends or visits this show, we'd all love
a review.

Also, she told me something I did not know about QVC (which I don't think we
should be
working with)... QVC prefers to manufacture/source for themselves any product of
yours they
may sell on TV... that is to say, if they select your product, they don't buy it
from you, they
make it themselves and then sell it on air, preferably with you there on the
screen answering
callers questions. This artist said her friends were getting about $30K per
event... not sure if
that is per cycle or each time on the screen or whatever. Whatever it is, from
what I see,
those people earn every penny.

This brings to miond something I am not sure I mentioned, I was speaking to an
importer
who sold his company to some new york investors and they went after Walmart as a
customer, items being kitchenware. Now one presents say an ice scream scoop
with full
specifications down to metullurgical breakdown and production process, and then
Walmart
buyers do a live worldwide online bidding war to see if anyone else can do it
cheaper than
you, to specification. If not, it's you get the contract. Brutal, but great
for consumers.

John


BasicPhone

Re: [spiers] BasicPhone

Jesse,

The dutch cel phone is beautiful... a 9 key and start and stop buttons... I love
the ad copy:
stylish to avoid stigmatization for users... so the marketers are afraid we will
be laughed at
using this phone... are we spared nothing?!

John
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:30:14 -0800, Jesse Milden wrote :

> The recent phone conversations reminded me of a phone I've read about.
> It was designed by a Dutch company. I don't know if it's currently
> being sold, but it looks like what people on the list are describing.
> Maybe someone on the list can represent it in the US.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/7sgo8
>
> Jesse


BasicPhone

The recent phone conversations reminded me of a phone I've read about.
It was designed by a Dutch company. I don't know if it's currently
being sold, but it looks like what people on the list are describing.
Maybe someone on the list can represent it in the US.

http://tinyurl.com/7sgo8

Jesse


Questions

Re: [spiers] Re: Questions

Orders are legally binding contracts, but conversation, even enthusiastic
conversation is not...
believe half of what you see and none of what you hear... get samples...get
orders...if you get
orders to cover minimums, then proceed... yes, orders from importers...

But I've got to say, I've sold lots to 3rd countries this way, but always as
part of what I was
importing into usa.. as a start, it seems a challenge... how come you are not
satarting this biz
importing into usa, for usa market?

John
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:26:23 -0000, "John" wrote :

> Thanks again John!
>
> I've contacted about 5 Australian souvenir retail shops and they all
> thought my product line would sell extremely well (one even suggested
> I'd get rich from this). They all agreed that they would sell my
> product line in their store once it is available and they've seen
> samples.
>
> So...since my plan is to sell directly to Australian importers should
> I continue to get more "test" orders from small retailers or should I
> just skip ahead to my real customers which are the Australian
> importers?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
>
>
> --- In spiers@yahoogroups.com, "John Spiers" wrote:
> >
> > Simplify, test...
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:42:55 -0700, "John Teel" wrote :
> >
> > > 1.) Which order do you suggest I make first contact with
> retailers,
> > > importers, and the manufacturer? My plan is to contact about 10
> retailers
> > > to see if they would be interested enough to place an order once
> the
> > > products are available.
> >
> > ***Yes, always customers first... see what they say and then worry
> about hypotheticals.***
> >
> > > 2.) Any suggestion on what percent of revenue I should start
> > > negotiations with the manufacturer at?
> >
> > ***Whatever generates you about $250/hour for your time. We are
> wage slaves. But it is not
> > a matter of negotiation, it is a matter of they have a price and
> you tack on a percent. ***
> > >
> > > 3.) Would there be anything preventing me from buying and
> selling these
> > > products at the same time I'm getting shared revenue from the
> manufacturer?
> > > Maybe after I built up some capital from my shared revenue I
> might decide it
> > > is more profitable if I buy and sell the items.
> > >
> >
> > ***Nothing at all to prevent this..but first things first.
> Customers. then more customers.
> >
> > John


Questions

Re: Questions

Thanks again John!

I've contacted about 5 Australian souvenir retail shops and they all
thought my product line would sell extremely well (one even suggested
I'd get rich from this). They all agreed that they would sell my
product line in their store once it is available and they've seen
samples.

So...since my plan is to sell directly to Australian importers should
I continue to get more "test" orders from small retailers or should I
just skip ahead to my real customers which are the Australian
importers?

Thanks,
John




--- In spiers@yahoogroups.com, "John Spiers" wrote:
>
> Simplify, test...
>
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:42:55 -0700, "John Teel" wrote :
>
> > 1.) Which order do you suggest I make first contact with
retailers,
> > importers, and the manufacturer? My plan is to contact about 10
retailers
> > to see if they would be interested enough to place an order once
the
> > products are available.
>
> ***Yes, always customers first... see what they say and then worry
about hypotheticals.***
>
> > 2.) Any suggestion on what percent of revenue I should start
> > negotiations with the manufacturer at?
>
> ***Whatever generates you about $250/hour for your time. We are
wage slaves. But it is not
> a matter of negotiation, it is a matter of they have a price and
you tack on a percent. ***
> >
> > 3.) Would there be anything preventing me from buying and
selling these
> > products at the same time I'm getting shared revenue from the
manufacturer?
> > Maybe after I built up some capital from my shared revenue I
might decide it
> > is more profitable if I buy and sell the items.
> >
>
> ***Nothing at all to prevent this..but first things first.
Customers. then more customers.
>
> John


Questions

RE: [spiers] Questions

Simplify, test...

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:42:55 -0700, "John Teel" wrote
:

> 1.) Which order do you suggest I make first contact with retailers,
> importers, and the manufacturer? My plan is to contact about 10 retailers
> to see if they would be interested enough to place an order once the
> products are available.

***Yes, always customers first... see what they say and then worry about
hypotheticals.***

> 2.) Any suggestion on what percent of revenue I should start
> negotiations with the manufacturer at?

***Whatever generates you about $250/hour for your time. We are wage slaves.
But it is not
a matter of negotiation, it is a matter of they have a price and you tack on a
percent. ***
>
> 3.) Would there be anything preventing me from buying and selling these
> products at the same time I'm getting shared revenue from the manufacturer?
> Maybe after I built up some capital from my shared revenue I might decide it
> is more profitable if I buy and sell the items.
>

***Nothing at all to prevent this..but first things first. Customers. then
more customers.

John


Sunday, January 8, 2006

Questions

RE: [spiers] Questions

John, thanks so much for all the help! I'm really leaning toward trying to
partner up with a manufacturer for shared revenue. I will provide the
designs and the Australian importers to the manufacturer. I have a couple
of questions in regard to this.



1.) Which order do you suggest I make first contact with retailers,
importers, and the manufacturer? My plan is to contact about 10 retailers
to see if they would be interested enough to place an order once the
products are available. Assuming they all provide positive feedback then
I'll contact a few importers to see if they would like to place orders and
if so then I'll finally make my proposal to the manufacturer. Is this the
order you suggest or does it really matter if I contact importers or the
manufacturer first?

2.) Any suggestion on what percent of revenue I should start
negotiations with the manufacturer at?

3.) Would there be anything preventing me from buying and selling these
products at the same time I'm getting shared revenue from the manufacturer?
Maybe after I built up some capital from my shared revenue I might decide it
is more profitable if I buy and sell the items.



Thanks,

John Teel









_____

From: spiers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:spiers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
John Spiers
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 7:32 PM
To: spiers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spiers] Questions



John,

thanks for your kind words, and welcome aboard.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:47:01 -0700, wrote :
My research shows the idea to be essentially unique and various
> Australians that I've shared the concept with agree it could be very
> popular. ...

***It's a hard requirement, like measure twice and cut once, but the only
research that
matters is orders from customers... I wouldn't do anything without orders
from customers for
the samples you present. That will answer all your subsequent questions.
As Drucker says,
"entrepreneurs do not take risks... (Innovation and Entrepreneurship... Page
139... check it
out the the library or find an amazon link at
http://www.johnspiers.com/resources.html )...
so we minimize risk by geting orders first...


1) I buy from manufacturer and sell to retailers
2) I buy from manufacturer and sell to importers
3) I partner with manufacturer and share revenue. Any comments on
> the advantages/disadvantages of these three business structures?

I pick #3, assuming an australian importer, is placing orders with you.

>
> My research shows that a mousepad ... retail for
> at least $10USD. > Why is the manufacturer's cost so much cheaper than the
retail price?

***this is where the process of getting orders first reveals answers to your
questions. I've
used mousepads for 20 years...and i have never bought on. Mousepads are
free. They cost
75 cent in Taiwan cause they are a giveaway (or they are a giveaway cuz they
cost 75 cents). I
saw a $30 mousepad in a museum store that was a oriental rug. cute. it is
a consistently
available item, with new design every so often, so they must sell. (and
aren't mouses
evolving into stationary items on computers?) Perhaps you anticipate
selling 75 cents
mousepads for $10, when the $10 ones actually cost $2...perhaps there is a
mixup in the
analysis of the chain...***

It
> seems to mean either I can mark them up almost 7x and make insane profits
or
> use the standard 100% markup and then let the retailer make all the big
> profit. >
> Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

***I can't say exactly if there is a problem, but bottom line, get the
orders first, then proceed,
A garage full of mousepads would be serious annoyance.***

John


Questions

Re: [spiers] Questions

John,

thanks for your kind words, and welcome aboard.

On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:47:01 -0700, wrote :
My research shows the idea to be essentially unique and various
> Australians that I've shared the concept with agree it could be very
> popular. ...

***It's a hard requirement, like measure twice and cut once, but the only
research that
matters is orders from customers... I wouldn't do anything without orders from
customers for
the samples you present. That will answer all your subsequent questions. As
Drucker says,
"entrepreneurs do not take risks... (Innovation and Entrepreneurship... Page
139... check it
out the the library or find an amazon link at
http://www.johnspiers.com/resources.html )...
so we minimize risk by geting orders first...


1) I buy from manufacturer and sell to retailers
2) I buy from manufacturer and sell to importers
3) I partner with manufacturer and share revenue. Any comments on
> the advantages/disadvantages of these three business structures?

I pick #3, assuming an australian importer, is placing orders with you.

>
> My research shows that a mousepad ... retail for
> at least $10USD. > Why is the manufacturer's cost so much cheaper than the
retail price?

***this is where the process of getting orders first reveals answers to your
questions. I've
used mousepads for 20 years...and i have never bought on. Mousepads are free.
They cost
75 cent in Taiwan cause they are a giveaway (or they are a giveaway cuz they
cost 75 cents). I
saw a $30 mousepad in a museum store that was a oriental rug. cute. it is a
consistently
available item, with new design every so often, so they must sell. (and aren't
mouses
evolving into stationary items on computers?) Perhaps you anticipate selling
75 cents
mousepads for $10, when the $10 ones actually cost $2...perhaps there is a mixup
in the
analysis of the chain...***

It
> seems to mean either I can mark them up almost 7x and make insane profits or
> use the standard 100% markup and then let the retailer make all the big
> profit. >
> Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

***I can't say exactly if there is a problem, but bottom line, get the orders
first, then proceed,
A garage full of mousepads would be serious annoyance.***

John


New Product Idea

Re: [spiers] New Product Idea

I love this! Kinda like a computer virus that takes over your computer, but a
take-over that I
want. I see a website where I can click buttons for features I want... big
numbers...click..$5...
no calendars...click 5 bucks...no games..click $5... plug in my phone and for
$150 I got the
features I want, the phone I want. And cingular payment plan.

Who is going to do this... if nobody, let me know..cuz if not in 96 hours am
going to pass
this on to my nephew who writes cel phone games for a Belgian (!?) company and
is looking
for a "main chance". If any of you are going to do it, then I'll keep quiet. I
am desperate.

John
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 10:14:03 -0800, psnyder@alumni.caltech.edu wrote :

> Is there a simpler strategy? How about borrowing a page from Google's
> playbook? They didn't change the PC nor the OS, they just downloaded
> Google desktop (eventually, they will download an "application" that will
> replace the entire virus-riddled Microsoft Windows).
>
> In a similar way, could an existing "super-duper phone" customer download
> an application from a third-party provider (you!) that would in effect,
> allow the phone and operating system to run normally, but replaces the
> entire screen with a simple set of jumbo phone numbers for those of us over
> 40? In addition, it would ignore button presses from all but the 'send'
> and 'end' keys.
>
> Companies already exist to download fairly complex games that take over the
> screen and button functionality ( bluefrogmobile.com ); one would only need
> to make this a permanent change to the phone.
>
> This strategy sidesteps both the FCC and getting agreement from phone
> providers and retailers.
>
>
>
> At 01:18 AM 1/7/2006 -0500, you wrote:
> >> OK... so the service providers and the govt is in the way...what is new?
> >> If you do not like the
> >> Honda Accord, you can add and substract endless parts and it is still
> >> street legal. Kids do
> >> this all the time... take it down to the VIN number and rebuild. So
> >> cingular issues you a
> >> phone for their service, and "Edward's Fine Electronics" rips out the guts
> >> and puts it into a
> >> workable phone for $149.95. I'm sold.
> >It’s not as simple as taking Honda and gut it and than build to the likes
> >of the US consumer, when it comes to wireless cell phone technology. There
> >is customer facing technology which is handsets and cell phone hardware,
> >which need to communicate with the backend network service provider’s
> >networks like Cingular or others, to complete the call within cities,
> >towns, states, nation and international. Now simple cell phones did exist
> >in years 1997/8/9, 2000 but as time proceeded, so did backend network’s
> >technology. Today Cingular is on GSM technology which is used worldwide.
> >So the hand sets has also changed with built in modifiable data chip and
> >complicated bells and whistles.
> >
> >I think what should be done is take 1997/8/9, 2000 handset technology and
> >modify to work with GSM technology and market it. Why to reinvent the
> >wheel, when simple ease of use technology already was invented before and
> >thrown away to make room for bells and whistles technology? Just modify it
> >to work with GSM networks. Nokia, Motorola, Qualcom and many other small
> >cell hardware designers and manufacturer already have this earlier design
> >blueprints.
> >
> >Only thing is, small fish would need investments and support from network
> >services providers and motivation to bring back innovative/creative spirit
> >that was the flagship during late 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. If a network
> >service provider blesses this project, FCC should not be the problem, they
> >are all imbedded.
> >
> >grp